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#1 jsa47

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:12 PM

Trion, Georgia. 3-10-12. Looked really white when flying closer, but I couldn't get a shot.

#2 illin

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:26 PM

I am fairly sure this is an accipitor, not a buteo. And with the bulky proportions I would say Cooper's Hawk.


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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:39 PM

I would agree... long tail, can see the bands if you enlarge it, wing pattern too.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:54 PM

Thanks.

#5 Julie H

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:23 PM

I'm just not sure that the tail is long enough for a Cooper's, and with the translucent wingtips, I'm inclined to go with Red-Shouldered Hawk.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:41 PM

You bring up a good point with the wing panels Julie. I am not sure I will change my mind, but that is a possibility I wrestled with. The tail is shorter and the bird looks more squat than I like to see in a Coop. Also the wings are fairly broad for a Coop. I originally chalked this up to the photo angle, but now am not so sure. I think the original poster may want to hold off on marking this bird down for sure. I could be convinced it is a RS Hawk.

 

Then again the tail isn't marked like a RS Hawk. Also the white "pantiloons" are something that i have seen in numerous Cooper's. And I think if you look at it close you can see the Cooper's "cap" on top of it's head(unless that is just a shadow).



#7 jsa47

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:54 PM

Here's another. Don't know if it will help. 

#8 stewart1998

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:03 PM

I am almost sure this isn't a Red-Shouldered Hawk. I would call it a Cooper's.

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#9 Cavan Wood

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:41 PM

I agree with Cooper's.  As mentioned, RSHA always has the white bands more narrow than the dark, plus there is the dark cap.  I think the tail looks short because the white undertail is sticking out to the sides.  If you look where the feet are, you get a better idea of the length of the tail.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:02 PM

I'm positive this is an accipiter. I'm not positive it's Cooper's over Sharp-shinned, but I'm leaning that way based on proportions.


#11 PoorMatty

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:23 PM

Cooper's for me too.


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Posted 13 March 2012 - 04:28 PM

My vote is for Cooper's as well.. The first photo seems to be the best indicator, to me at least, because the leading edge of the wing appears rather straight. 




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