I saw this bird on the St. John's River in Central Florida yesterday. At first glance, I thought it might be a common gallinule but as I look at it, I am just not sure.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:42 PM
I saw this bird on the St. John's River in Central Florida yesterday. At first glance, I thought it might be a common gallinule but as I look at it, I am just not sure.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:45 PM
I've never seen the bird, but it kind of looks like a Purple Gallinule since it lacks that white stripe along its side. Also, it has that overall blue body colour as well. Wait for someone who has experience with these birds though!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:46 PM
Did you get a look face front?
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:48 PM
Looks like a Purple Gallinule from what I can see.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:52 PM
I'd say common gallinule. The purple would have a greenish back.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:57 PM
This was the only picture I got...I was in a boat and my husband went by too fast!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:01 PM
Again, I have nothing to go on but guides, but might this be a juvenile? Or have they already molted into their adult plumage by this time?I'd say common gallinule. The purple would have a greenish back.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:09 PM
It seems the Purple has won. Thanks a lot! I know a Purple Gallinule but in the lily pads with no face or huge yellow feet, it was beyond me! Thanks so much!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:30 PM
Its a Common Moorhen!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:37 PM
Common Moorhen = Common Gallinule now. That possibility has been discussed in this thread already. Could you let us know why you think it's a Common rather than a Purple?Its a Common Moorhen!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:41 PM
haha - I say it is a gallinule! Maybe common, maybe purple!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:45 PM
I think it is because you can barely see the bill which is red with the tip of yellow in which the Common Gallinule has.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:47 PM
Purple Gallinules also have the yellow tip I believe.I think it is because you can barely see the bill which is red with the tip of yellow in which the Common Gallinule has.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:51 PM
it could be a Purple Swamphen? Or a Crossbreed of a Purple Gallinule x Common Gallinule
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:52 PM
Wait NO it is a Common Gallinule! Look at the stripe on the Side of the bird! and the Brown on the back! it is !
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:56 PM
Hmm, I don't see nearly enough green for Purple Gallinule, the blues don't look as bright, and I think I see part of the white flank stripe peeking through the foliage. If there hadn't been contention, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about IDing this as a Common Gallinule.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:58 PM
the white flank gave it away!
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:28 PM
Hmm, I don't see nearly enough green for Purple Gallinule, the blues don't look as bright, and I think I see part of the white flank stripe peeking through the foliage. If there hadn't been contention, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about IDing this as a Common Gallinule.
The photo is underexposed and the colors aren't as vibrant as they would be in real life.
I do see what you mean about the white flanks, though, didn't see that at first.
Still, odd behavior for a Common Gallinule.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:41 PM
I over-exposed the pic and cropped it to see if it helps any with the id:
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