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#1 guy_incognito

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:09 AM

These pictures are from today in So Cal in the Morongo Valley and Whitewater areas.

1. Pretty sure this is a Gray Flycatcher. Seemed to be doing downward tail flicks.
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2. This was seen about 10 minutes later, and about 50 yards away. Thinking Gray Flycatcher again?
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:11 AM

3. Hammond's Flycatcher? Small bill and long primary projection seems like a good fit for Hammond's.
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4. 5 minutes later not too far away, another (or same) Hammond's?
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:13 AM

5. Two pics of the same bird, now at a new location from the first 4. Maybe Hammond's again? I feel less confident about this one. Seems to have a pretty long primary projection, but the bill seems longer than I'd expect for a typical Hammond's. Not sure what else would be a good fit. Maybe Pacific-slope or Dusky?

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:16 AM

Well, I'll confirm the Grays... don't have my guide on me for the others.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 02:16 AM

all i can say is good pictures

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:40 AM

That 'Hammond's'' looks very much like the unspecified Flycatcher that I saw in my yard in Ridgecrest, CA. I thought it might be a Pacific Slope? Sorry, I can't post the pic from my gallery here using my iPad.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:50 AM

That 'Hammond's'' looks very much like the unspecified Flycatcher that I saw in my yard in Ridgecrest, CA. I thought it might be a Pacific Slope? Sorry, I can't post the pic from my gallery here using my iPad.


Yeah, it does look like yours, though yours may have a slightly larger bill. I saw your thread, and didn't feel confident enough on the empid to offer an ID. I'd like to see a more prominent eye-ring to make it into a Pac-slope. The primary projection does seem quite long.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

Any other input on flycatchers #3-5 (especially #5)?

Also here is a thrush that I initially dismissed as a Hermit Thrush, forgetting that Swainson's is now a possibility.

6. Hermit or Swainson's?
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:04 PM

I can confirm the grays and I think the thrush is a swainson's.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

Here's a Pacific Slope from Baja Sur. The lower mandible and defined eye ring look different to me than the bird in your pic. Pretty darn close.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:19 PM

i think the thrush is a hermit. swainson's have a streak in front of there eye

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:32 AM

Thanks for the input JimBob and Parula. Do we have a tie-breaker?

Parula - What kind of a streak are you referring to? I've not seen that mentioned in field guides, and haven't noticed it in any that I've seen before. Always looking for new ID techniques.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:22 AM

My guess is Hermit for the thrush. I would expect a bolder eyering on a Swainson's, and though I know Swainson's has some coloring variation, It isn't colored like the Swainson's here at any rate. Of course, a tail shot would help but I imagine you would have showed that if you had it!

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

there is a streak that goes from the eye to the beak
you will spot it by looking at the pictures
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