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#1 Platypus

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:51 AM

Hi all! The first bird was seen today and the second bird was seen about a week ago. Both were seen near Montreal, Quebec.

I have more photos of each, though the photo quality for the Wren is far inferior to that of the Sparrow's. Thanks in advance!

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#2 Liam

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:04 AM

Swamp Sparrow and a House Wren.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:08 AM

Swamp Sparrow and a House Wren.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:10 AM

I agree with Swamp Sparrow, but that looks like a Winter Wren to me. Too dark and short-tailed for House.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:11 AM

I was thinking the tail looked a bit long (as did the beak), but you're probably right.

EDIT:. I should add that I just remembered that House Wren don't typically hold their tail upright.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:17 AM

The posture looks right for a Winter, but wouldn't you expect to see a more obvious, white supercilium?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:21 AM

Sibley shows a yellowish malar for swamp sparrow. Is the white malar more common or seen on non-breeding? :wacko:
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:28 AM

Thanks for the responses guys! Here's another shot of the Wren if this helps at all. For what it's worth, I thought it was a Winter Wren.

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Sibley shows a yellowish malar for swamp sparrow. Is the white malar more common or seen on non-breeding? :wacko:

I don't have a guide on me, but looking through a Google Images result for "Swamp Sparrow", it seems that individuals can express either a yellow or white malar. Any chance you could enlighten us on this issue PoorMatty?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:37 AM

Thanks for the responses guys! Here's another shot of the Wren if this helps at all. For what it's worth, I thought it was a Winter Wren.

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I don't have a guide on me, but looking through a Google Images result for "Swamp Sparrow", it seems that individuals can express either a yellow or white malar. Any chance you could enlighten us on this issue PoorMatty?


I was definitely wrong on this one. That picture clearly shows the supercilium to go along with all the other field marks everyone pointed out.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:39 AM

And here's one last photo of the wren.

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EDIT: Thanks for second response BillyPilgrim!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:07 AM

The Swamp Sparrow in these photos is more or less in breeding plumage. I've never noticed a yellow malar on a Swamp Sparrow. Maybe a buffy wash on individual birds. Sometimes there can be quite a yellowish tint in the lores, but when you look closer, again, just a buffy or pale rusty wash. A white malar is typical, especially in breeding plumage.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:09 AM

My first response was Winter Wren, based on that very short, erect tail and the general small size. (The first time I saw one in my backyard I was surprised at how much smaller it was than the Bewicks I see here.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:04 AM

All the House Wren I've seen hold their tail down and then wag it up. And it's much longer in proportion.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:03 AM

I am gonna go with winter wren. because of the tiny tail

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