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#1 Grandpa577

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:23 AM

Taken today at West End 2, Jones Beach, NY. Had a Great Crested and an Olive-sided recently but neither seem to fit the bill. Breast seems to white for Eastern Wood-Pewee and no weak eye-ring and . . .

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:32 AM

Leaning on EWP.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:51 AM

Looks like an Eastern Wood Pewee to me. -long primary projection, long tail, crested head.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:53 AM

Leaning on EWP.

How would you feel about Willow Flycatcher? The Eastern Wood-Pewee's I have seen have an overall gray appearance while Willow has more brownish/olive/yellowish coloring.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:01 AM

PP just seems too long. Neither have returned here yet, so it's been a while, so wait for more opinions.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:52 AM

Very long primary projection confirms Eastern Wood-Pewee.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:47 PM

Agree with Eastern Wood-Pewee. In addition to what the others said, the tail spreads out near the end, on a Traill's flycatcher, the tail would be straight.
Let me pull up a comparison I made last year...

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:41 PM

Thanks, Liam. Here's my problem. My understanding is the bird on the left in the following photo is a Eastern Wood-Peewee. When I compare it to the bird on the right I see difference, particularly in the white of the wingbars and overall coloring. Most EAWP I have seen have an overall grayish appearance in the upperparts and in the smudges on the upper breast. I am not seeing that in the bird on the right. So my question is can you see the differences I see and if so, are those differences just variations within the EAWP species?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

Thanks, Liam. Here's my problem. My understanding is the bird on the left in the following photo is a Eastern Wood-Peewee. When I compare it to the bird on the right I see difference, particularly in the white of the wingbars and overall coloring. Most EAWP I have seen have an overall grayish appearance in the upperparts and in the smudges on the upper breast. I am not seeing that in the bird on the right. So my question is can you see the differences I see and if so, are those differences just variations within the EAWP species?


I think the difference in the wingbars and coloration is due to the difference in the photos. Note that the photo on the left is fairly well-exposed, but the one on the right isn't. I'm sure if you had better lighting, or if you had a nice exposure on the photo on the right, you'd see the color is pretty similar. As for the wingbars, the bird on the left has its coverts on the left being fluffed out and its coverts on the right slightly overexposed. There's also a difference in the angle of the birds.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:18 PM

I also like to use the bi-colored bill as a good mark for EWPs (not sure if it could be considered diagnostic, but it definitely contributes). You can see it pretty well in all of Grandpa's shots.

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