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#1 babybear

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:18 PM

Attached File  grosbeak.jpg   283.21K   130 downloadsAttached File  towhee.jpg   1002.38K   126 downloadsI live in west central Missouri..here's the 2 birds....they're tons of them...please help! Thank you

#2 Limpkin

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:00 PM

Welcome to Whatbird! Your first shot shows a female Baltimore Oriole, I believe, and the second shows a male Orchard Oriole.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:00 PM

Orchard Orioles.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

Agree with male and female orchard oriole. I think the lighting in the first pic is just making her look a little more orange than normal.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:16 PM

Thanks, I really appreciate the expertise!

#6 Limpkin

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:10 PM

Agree with male and female orchard oriole. I think the lighting in the first pic is just making her look a little more orange than normal.


I concede, I have little experience with either species. How did you rule out Baltimore?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

I know its not the best diagnostic, but bill shape really stands out to me with these guys. Additionally, female Orchards have a more uniformly colored head, where Baltimores tend to have some darker markings on the face and cap.

In good lighting, the overall color is very different. Baltimores have a distinct orange hue, while Orchards appear green overall. I think the lighting is giving this one a bit of an orange cast, but I'd expect it to be much stronger for a Baltimore.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

I know its not the best diagnostic, but bill shape really stands out to me with these guys. Additionally, female Orchards have a more uniformly colored head, where Baltimores tend to have some darker markings on the face and cap.

In good lighting, the overall color is very different. Baltimores have a distinct orange hue, while Orchards appear green overall. I think the lighting is giving this one a bit of an orange cast, but I'd expect it to be much stronger for a Baltimore.


Awesome, thanks!




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