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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:59 AM
Taken east of Phoenix in mid April. Waited for a call, got nothing. Anything more than an empid?
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:59 AM
Nice picture of an...empid. Not sure which, but I am in the Dusky/Hammond's camp, and would favor Dusky if a gun were pointed to my head.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:48 AM
Nice picture of an...empid. Not sure which, but I am in the Dusky/Hammond's camp, and would favor Dusky if a gun were pointed to my head.
Love the decision based on a life or death choice. lol My guess would be Dusky I think.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:36 PM
It's got a pretty huge eyering that tapers in the back. That plus the primary projection points my towards Cordilleran IMO.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:40 PM
If this is a Cordilleran, the color balance on the photo would be way off. Cordillerans are primarily yellowish below, including the throat. (If one showed up here in Illinois, it would almost certainly be called a Yellow-bellied, unless it sang for someone with some experience with the species.) Cordillerans also have pale lower mandibles - this one is mostly dark.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:57 AM
Thanks very much for the excellent discussion. Based on a prior picture I have of a Pacific-Slope/Cordilleran the lower bill observation looks definitive.
Looking at the ratio of the left wing projection to the length of the tail can Hammond's be more likely?
Looking at the ratio of the left wing projection to the length of the tail can Hammond's be more likely?
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:51 AM
I'm not sure if bill color, or any other color for that matter, can be properly ascertained from a backlit image like this.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:13 AM
Looks like I am digging a dry hole. Just to humor me, here is a backlit example of a Pacific-slope/Cordilleran where bicolor bill is obvious.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:48 AM
My first thought when seeing this photo was Dusky/Hammond's. Doesn't look at all yellow enough for Cordilleran/Pacific-Slope to my eye.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:21 AM
Matt, I have taken the liberty to photo edit your photos... I have not altered the color balance and have done nothing to enhance the colors.
Hope you don't mind
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:58 AM
nice job Fraser, appreciate it
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:44 PM
I just reread my post in this thread and realized it might have been easy to misconstrue. What I meant was that the original photo that started the thread was Dusky/Hammond's, not the second photo that you identified as Cordilleran/Pac-Slope. I agree with you on that one.
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