I have been hearing that the chat will no longer be grouped with the warblers and is suddenly an icterid. Anyone have the straight story on this?
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:41 PM
I've not heard anything about it and a quick online search turned up nothing.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:20 PM
The Yellow-Breasted Chat has always been one of those "where do you belong?" head scratchers in terms of its taxonomy, but I don't think anyone has yet to definitively claim it doesn't belong with the wood warblers (and actually suggest where else to lump it).
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:50 PM
I think you mean Icteria, not icterid
If you can believe Wikipedia....
"The Yellow-breasted Chat (Icteria virens) is a large songbird, formerly considered the most atypical member of the New World warbler family, though the long-standing suspicion is that it does not actually belong there. Its placement is not definitely resolved. It is the only member of the genus Icteria."
If you can believe Wikipedia....
"The Yellow-breasted Chat (Icteria virens) is a large songbird, formerly considered the most atypical member of the New World warbler family, though the long-standing suspicion is that it does not actually belong there. Its placement is not definitely resolved. It is the only member of the genus Icteria."
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:46 PM
"The Yellow-breasted Chat (Icteria virens) is a large songbird, formerly considered the most atypical member of the New World warbler family, though the long-standing suspicion is that it does not actually belong there. Its placement is not definitely resolved. It is the only member of the genus Icteria."
Wikipedia got this one right. YB Chat is in the genus Icteria which is the family Parulidea (Wood Warblers).
New Year's Resolutions:
Get my lifelist to 300 (currently 293)
Finally get Mountain Quail and Vesper Sparrow
Top my previous single year best (2011-253) I'm at 193 as of 5/12.
Latest Lifer(s):Harris's Sparrow, Oka Ponds, Campbell, CA, 1/1/13
Favorite Recent Bird(s):Yellow-breasted Chat, Knights Ferry Rec Area, Knights Ferry, CA, 5/20/13; Blue-winged Teal (Pair), Peregrine Falcon, Sanderling (3),Franklin's Gull (9), Modesto Wastewater Treatment Facility, Modesto, CA, 5/12/13, MacGillivray's Warber, Adair Rd., Modesto, CA, 5/5/13, Long-eared Owl, Mercy Hot Springs, Fresno County, CA, 4/29/13, Lawrwnce's Goldfinch, Panoche Shool, San Benito County, CA, 4/29/13,Lawrwnce's Goldfinch, McHenry Rec Area, Escalon, CA, 4/21/13, Snowy Plover, Modesto Water Treatment Plant, Modesto, CA, 4/14/13, Blue-winged Teal, Redhead, San Luis NWR, Merced County, CA, 3/11/13, Eurasian Wigeon, American Bittern, Santa Fe Grade Rd., Merced County,, CA, 3/9/13
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:25 PM
No, I meant Icterid as in it would be classed with the blackbirds and orioles. But I haven't been able to find anything on line saying that this has occurred. Allegedly, DNA testing showed little commonality with the other warblers. I do intend to check back with the source of the rumor.I think you mean Icteria, not icterid
If you can believe Wikipedia....
"The Yellow-breasted Chat (Icteria virens) is a large songbird, formerly considered the most atypical member of the New World warbler family, though the long-standing suspicion is that it does not actually belong there. Its placement is not definitely resolved. It is the only member of the genus Icteria."
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 09:50 PM
I did a quick check on the ABA website and they do not mention anything about a re-classification. But I did see the DNA study mentioned on the Ohio DNR website. My guess is that it is not official yet. Has DNA testing been used to reclassify before? If not - this would might be met with some resistance from the "old school" As genetic analysis become more widespread, I can see this type of thing happening more often.
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