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rogerVA
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:47 PM
The only hawks I ever see turn out to be Red-Tailed (no offense Red-Tailed Hawks) and I figure these are the same? Can you tell if these are younger and/or can you tell the gender? I like to think this is a young couple, but it could be siblings, or just pals.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:56 PM
They look like juvenile Broad-winged Hawks to me, but I don't get to see enough of these guys perched to feel comfortable ruling out juvenile Red-shouldered. If you've got a shot of them in flight?
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:58 PM
These look more like young Red-shouldered Hawks. Where was the pic taken? And I don't think you need to worry about offending any Red-tails, they don't read this forum 
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:25 PM
Wow, I hope you're right. Here's a pic I took shortly before or after the other. I assume this guy is one of those two, but I'm not certain. They were hanging out along the James River here in Richmond VA.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:32 PM
I think psweet is correct, young Broad-winged Hawks. Being from California I don't immediately think of Broad-winged.
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Get my lifelist to 300 (currently 293)
Finally get Mountain Quail and Vesper Sparrow
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:25 AM
Looks just like the young red-shouldered that I have seen.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:14 AM
I'm not sure if I'm right about this, but it seems that juvenile Broad-winged hawks have a somewhat horizontal appearance to their breast streaking whereas juvenile Red-shouldered appear to have vertical streaking. If there's any credence to that these would be Red-shouldered.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:32 AM
The National Audubon Society tells me that the photo of the lone hawk is:
"This is a first-year Red-shouldered Hawk. Broad-winged are similar, but would have stronger markings on the tail and heavier streaking on the breast."
Mystery solved, congrats on the correct ID'ers.
"This is a first-year Red-shouldered Hawk. Broad-winged are similar, but would have stronger markings on the tail and heavier streaking on the breast."
Mystery solved, congrats on the correct ID'ers.
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