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#1 Cobal

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:18 PM

Taken in Central Ohio
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Dickcissel?
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House Finch?
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#2 triciav83

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

These are my best guesses
1) song sparrow
2) house finch?
3) dickcissel
4) house finch
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

Looks to me like,
1. Savannah Sparrow
2. Young Song Sparrow
3. Dickcissel
4. Female Blue Grosbeak

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:06 PM

Looks to me like,
1. Savannah Sparrow
2. Young Song Sparrow
3. Dickcissel
4. Female Blue Grosbeak


Agree with all.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:16 PM

I think that last one's a juvenile Indigo Bunting -- I can't find any sources that describe distinct streaking on the undersides of Blue Grosbeak at any age.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

You may be right, I was looking more at the bill, which looks pretty gross, than at the streaking.

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Peregrine Falcon, Black Tern, Bank Swallow: Modesto Wastewater treatment Facility, Modesto, CA, 8/10/14

Mountain Quail: Hwy 108 at Cow Creek, Tulomne County, CA, 8/4/14

Prairie Falcon, Pileated Woodpecker (5), Pygmy Nuthatch: Plasse's Resort, Amador County, CA, 7/27/14

Western Screech-Owl: Enslen Park, Modesto, CA, 4/16/14, 7/2/14, 7/6/14


#7 triciav83

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

I agree with Savannah Sparrow after consulting my guides. As for the bunting/grosbeak, I've never seen a juvenile, so I really have no idea
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:44 AM

The bill on the last looks much too big for Indigo Bunting to me. I can't find anything about streaking on Blue Grosbeak either, but I don't know what else it could be.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:27 PM

What about a juvenile Dickcissel for the last bird? I've never seen one in person, but some pictures I found show some underside streaking and the body shape/bill match. I'd like to see a little bit more of a supercilium, but this bird really doesn't look like and Indigo or B. Grosbeak to me so I'm throwing out a guess.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:45 PM

I thought about that, but every source I could find showed a strong malar and supercilium, without the fine head streaking.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:54 PM

I thought about that, but every source I could find showed a strong malar and supercilium, without the fine head streaking.


Yeah, I thinking I was forcing that one. In all likelihood, probably a juvie Indigo with a hefty bill.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:06 PM

So should I go with Indigo Bunting?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:44 PM

I am going for a female Blue Grosbeak for the last one. The strong cinnamon wingbars indicate such, unlike an Indigo Bunting, in which it would be less noticeable. Also, the big beak would make more sense. I can't really explain the streaks on the sides, as the Bunting and the Grosbeak both don't have them.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:16 AM

i think the last is a young blue grosbeak

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:48 AM

Looks to me like,
1. Savannah Sparrow
2. Young Song Sparrow
3. Dickcissel
4. Female Blue Grosbeak


FWIW...I agree with these except #4. I am in the juvie Indigo Bunting camp on that one.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 03:08 AM

I am going for a female Blue Grosbeak for the last one. The strong cinnamon wingbars indicate such, unlike an Indigo Bunting, in which it would be less noticeable. Also, the big beak would make more sense. I can't really explain the streaks on the sides, as the Bunting and the Grosbeak both don't have them.


Juvenile Indigo Buntings should show some streaking on the breast and sides.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 07:14 PM

I am going for a female Blue Grosbeak for the last one. The strong cinnamon wingbars indicate such, unlike an Indigo Bunting, in which it would be less noticeable. Also, the big beak would make more sense. I can't really explain the streaks on the sides, as the Bunting and the Grosbeak both don't have them.


Well said, I agree. Pretty obvious Blue Grosbeak, imo, because of the bill and wingbars. Posted Image

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

Well said, I agree. Pretty obvious Blue Grosbeak, imo, because of the bill and wingbars. Posted Image


Sorry to keep bashing this thread to death, but how do you account for the belly streaking, Liam? Seems like a pretty substantial mark that shouldn't be variable...I can't find a reference or photo of a Grosbeak displaying that (even fledglings appear to have clean breasts).

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:07 PM

I'm not sure about that part, individual variation?
Maybe Cobal and Tricia are right and it's a House Finch. :huh:
That bill just looks too big for INBU.

Cobal, do you have any more pics?

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:27 PM

I have one more, but it is a nearly identical angle. Honestly I was finished hiking and saw the bird land in a tree above my car and took a couple quick pics. I really thought that it was a house finch in the field. I wish I would have taken more. Lesson learned.




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