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#1 GLWC1964

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:31 PM


These pictures were taken near Topanga Canyon in Los Angeles, June 28 & 29. time of day is 8-9am.

The cries sounded just like the Red-shouldered hawk samples I found at All About Birds, but they are certainly different looking birds!

Because of the belly-band, I wondered if one might be an immature Red-tail, but the tail seems not quite right. We have a lot of both types in the area.



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Thanks for any help!
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

They're both Red-tails. The extent of the belly band is highly variable even in the eastern subspecies -- and the overall variation increases dramatically out west. The one with the heavy markings underneath is a young bird, possibly second year, based on the color of the eye.

#3 creeker

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:18 PM

I agree with Red-tailed Hawk. Young Red-taileds do make a repetitive cry not too much unlike that of the Red-shouldered. Thankfully, Red-taileds seem to grow out of it.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

Thanks a lot. The adult Red-tails I see soaring look a lot like #2, very light from below with even the tail more pale than the winter.
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