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#1 Chaseman

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:18 PM

Not used to see this much white on the ones here in Georgia. Is it normal for the wing patch to be white instead of yellow?
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#2 RyanWarnerPa

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

I think when it's white it's a tri-colored blackbird, but I think they are only native to Ca, it has the mandible shape to be a tri.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:32 PM

Its a Red-Winged Blackbird. You see quite a bit of variation in the color of their epaulets (shoulder patches), but Tri's will be pure white. The bill on this one also looks fine for a RWBGa would also be way out of range for them, so its always a safe bet everyone you encounter there is a RWB.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

Its a Red-Winged Blackbird. You see quite a bit of variation in the color of their epaulets (shoulder patches), but Tri's will be pure white. The bill on this one also looks fine for a RWBGa would also be way out of range for them, so its always a safe bet everyone you encounter there is a RWB.


Thanks! I don't encounter very many, but had not seen one with white yet.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

Here's a RWB question, does diet effect their coloring?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:49 PM

Here's a RWB question, does diet effect their coloring?


Yes and no. There's been a lot of research on the topic, and its clear that diet does play some role in most or all carotenoid-based pigmentation (reds and oranges), but there are evolutionary and biological constraints that effect coloration quite a bit. For a lot of species, age and plumage seem to have a much greater effect on coloration than diet, but its pretty difficult to disentangle.

Here's a pretty good article on the subject if you are interested: http://www.ebd.csic.es/jordi/Tella.pdf

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

Feather pigments can also bleach in the sun, so in late summer you can see some very washed out oranges and yellowish whites on these guys.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:21 PM

Thanks for the info!

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:36 PM

As always, you guys are a wealth of good, useful info. Thanks!

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:46 PM

Very interesting article, I feel a bit dumber after reading it, I needed a dictionary to reference some of the words just so I could follow along. But what I did gain and understand from the article is very interesting.




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