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#1 mhelsel

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 11:40 PM

Saw these birds yesterday at a marsh in NJ. Plus many shorebirds which I am working on id'ing. Thanks for your help!

1. some sort of flycatcher?
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2. is this the same? the feathers on belly look more yellow.
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3. my best guess was female house finch but I don't feel like that's right
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:59 AM

1. looks like a Eastern Wood-Pewee
2. don't know... maybe Acadian Flycatcher?
3. I agree with female House Finch

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#3 jblakelock

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:06 AM

1. The primary projection doesn't seem quite long enough for Eastern Wood-Pewee. Plus it looks lie it has a whitish notch on the lore. I'm thinking some sort of Empidonax Flycatcher. It does seem to have a longish bill.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:01 AM

if you have gray flycatcher in range, that is what i would call the 1st flycatchers,
and last one look like a house with little larger bill

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:24 AM

Gray would out of range for new Jersey. I'm thinking this could be a Willow: longish beak, grayer head and green back, but there's no way to be definite. Also the eye-ring doesn't look prominent, which again would be good for Willow, but that could be wash-out in the photo. Wait for some others to chime in. It might help if you gave the exact location. There are some NJ birders on the forum that might be able to help. I'm thinking of Birdbrain22 (I think that's right).

I suspect that No. 2 isn't Acadian because of the lack of a prominent eye-ring. Could also be Willow. It would be hard to tell if it's the same bird from No. 1.
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#6 mhelsel

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:06 PM

I've only seen Great Crested Flycatcher so anything else would be a lifer!

The exact location is Mill Creek Marsh. I've been trying to see if there's anything posted about what others have seen there recently

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:23 PM

According to the CMBO checklist, least flycatcher would be considered "fairly common" at this time of migration in NJ while the other Empid flycatchers are listed as 'Uncommon" as it is still a bit early for them.
just to add to the confusion

#8 mhelsel

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:07 AM

Thanks! It's so frustrating to know it's something I've never seen before but not be able to id it with certainty!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:52 AM

http://ebird.org/ebi...ntinue=Continue

Here's a link to the Ebird break down for Hudson County (if I have the right place). According to Ebird, Willow is the most reported Empidonax. Hopefully someone else will chime and help.
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#10 mhelsel

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:02 PM

Listening to the call, I'm pretty sure it was a Willow.




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