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#1 ladenso1

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:08 PM

I took this shot at Golders Hill Park on 22 July.

One expert British birder and photographer, who may, for all I know, be a member of this forum wasn't certain but suggested it might be a juvenile moorhen.

I've seen baby moorhens in Florida, tiny, black, fuzzy, and with the the red and yellow beaks of the adults. But when I looked on Google for shots of juveniles I did see one or two lacking that color in the beak.

Would certainly welcome anyone's thoughts on the identity of this bird.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:00 AM

A juvenile isn't what I would call a baby. . . It's full size, but not an adult. I could see this being a Common Moorhen.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 05:08 AM

Do you have any other photos of this bird? The angle makes a few identification points difficult. This could be a young Eurasian Coot. The neck and breast seem too white for Common Moorhen and the Moorhen should show a white stripe on the flanks which I don't see--but that may be because the bird is nestled down too far to see it. A side view of the head might help, a standing positions showing the tail would really be good.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 03:01 AM

Do you have any other photos of this bird? The angle makes a few identification points difficult. This could be a young Eurasian Coot. The neck and breast seem too white for Common Moorhen and the Moorhen should show a white stripe on the flanks which I don't see--but that may be because the bird is nestled down too far to see it. A side view of the head might help, a standing positions showing the tail would really be good.
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Juvenile coot was my thought as well.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:42 AM

Thanks very much for these replies. Unfortunately I didn't get any other shots of the bird--was with some non-birders and we were moving very rapidly.
Somehow, I missed the suggestion of a juvenile Eurasian coot. And even after I saw the images of a juvenile moorhen on the Web I didn't connect the dot to the idea that there's such a thing as a juvenile coot without the white bill.

But from another source I've now received a scan of a page from Sibley that shows the juvenile common moorhen and American coot, and I'm convinced the bird in that shot _is_ a juvenile coot. (All the other nests of that nature that I saw in London in July _were_ coots' nests).




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