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#1 Chaseman

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:33 PM

Did I get my first ever Warbler? I'm thinking Pine (and I really hope so).
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I thought Eastern Phoebe, but then I thought Flycatcher. Obviously, I don't know.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:34 PM

Pine Warbler, and Eastern Phoebe.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:37 PM

Agree, though not 100% on the warbler. A phoebe IS a flycatcher, so you were right either way.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:42 PM

Agree, though not 100% on the warbler. A phoebe IS a flycatcher, so you were right either way.

What might be another choice for the Warbler?

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:52 PM

pine warbler and an eastern wood pewee for me

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:55 PM

i agree with blackburnian

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:09 AM

It's not a blackburnian!!! ;)

I only said I wasn't 100% on the warbler because they are very confusing this time of year, and I didn't have time to look at my book. I wasn't doubting the ID already posted. Pine would have been my first guess.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:25 AM

It's not a blackburnian!!! ;)

I only said I wasn't 100% on the warbler because they are very confusing this time of year, and I didn't have time to look at my book. I wasn't doubting the ID already posted. Pine would have been my first guess.

Thanks for explaining that. I am already so confused, but I'm trying! And I agree, it's definitely not a Blackburnian!

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:32 AM

I agree with Blackburnian and Parula. :P

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:24 AM

Agree, though not 100% on the warbler. A phoebe IS a flycatcher, so you were right either way.


I'm glad you said that! That's how I use the term, but some seem to limit it to just the birds with "flycatcher" in their common name...I started thinking I was doin' it rong...
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

Do you think Eastern Wood Pewee because of the apparent wing bars? Just trying to learn something. Those two species (Eastern Phoebe and Easter Wood Pewee) seam very similar to me.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:18 PM

Do you think Eastern Wood Pewee because of the apparent wing bars? Just trying to learn something. Those two species (Eastern Phoebe and Easter Wood Pewee) seam very similar to me.

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Yes, Pewee's show pretty prominent wing-bars compared to Phoebes. Young Phoebes sometimes show messy, cinnamon-colored bars, but never whitish like this bird. Structurally, it also fits a Pewee better with its long primary extensions and upright posture.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 04:34 PM

I agree with Blackburnian and Parula. :P


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Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:21 PM

Do you think Eastern Wood Pewee because of the apparent wing bars? Just trying to learn something. Those two species (Eastern Phoebe and Easter Wood Pewee) seam very similar to me.

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I think that could be "field guide artifact." IMHO, phoebes (which I see a LOT of--that helps!) are about the easiet of the smaller tyrannids to ID. They have distinctly different behavioral and postural habits in addition to their "look." But often the sideways, upright illustrations in field guides make birds all seem to have the same shape and posture. If you're interested, I would suggest investing in some of the FG's with actual photos of the birds. Or a cheaper way to get a feel for this is to run a google image search of the species you want to compare. (Just be aware that a few pics that come up may be mis-identified. Google can't tell experts from would-be experts. ;) ).
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