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#1 grandmakansas

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:10 AM

One more from yesterday (NE Kansas) that I can't id. Not a very clear photo but can anyone id? Thank you so much!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:03 PM

Snow bunting!!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

seconded

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:01 PM

And. . . lots of Bush Honeysuckle. . . that stuff takes over everything. Apparently, STL was hit hardest by the honeysuckle invasion. My yard was covered in it. . . before I got out a hand saw. (some of the stalks were so big, like trees)

On a side note, I agree with Snow Bunting. A great bird. :)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:04 PM

And. . . lots of Bush Honeysuckle. . . that stuff takes over everything. Apparently, STL was hit hardest by the honeysuckle invasion. My yard was covered in it. . . before I got out a hand saw. (some of the stalks were so big, like trees)

On a side note, I agree with Snow Bunting. A great bird. :)

here in my area instead of bush honeysuckle we have forests of privet <_<

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:24 PM

Snow bunting? No. No no no! (not that I disagree with the identification, I do, NOW) It is just that in that position, I did not see any resemblance to a snow bunting. I threw my photos away, thinking it was a blurry blackbird of some sort! Probably a once in a lifetime sighting for me, and I threw them away! Arghhh.
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#8 grandmakansas

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

Thank you, it was pure dumb luck on my part!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:08 AM

I disagree. Looks like Harris's Sparrow to me.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:12 AM

agree with Indy here, Harris's Sparrow

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:05 AM

I don't see anyway to get Harris' out of this bird, unless it's leucistic in some very interesting ways. The darkest part of the head is the rear of the auriculars -- that simply shouldn't happen in a Harris'.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:28 AM

Just to clarify, Harris's Sparrow do show a dark spot on the auricular, just not as dark as the crown.
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Harris's Sparrow usually show some dark markings on the throat, malar, and crown, which this bird lacks. (see here: http://www.birddigis.../harrissp00.jpg)
However, I'm seeing no white on the wings, save the white on the edging. The rump doesn't resemble the rump of a Snow Bunting, either, which should be more mottled brown-gray, with white on either side (see: 1 and 2). The tail is rather thin and long for SNBU as well.

I'm more inclined towards strange Harris's Sparrow than Snow Bunting here, especially with the lack of the extensive white on the wings.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:30 AM

I think the wings and rump were a bit odd as well, but if that's a Harris', you're going to need more shots to prove it.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

...if that's a Harris', you're going to need more shots to prove it.


I agree, but you'd need more shots to prove it is a Snow Bunting as well. ;)

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

Really bizarre looking bird. Cburdnett, any other photos? I can't see this as a Snow Bunting. I think it would have to be both melanistic and leucistic to achieve these markings (i.e. wings and nape are too dark, rump is too light), which I'm not sure as possible. I see it as a leucistic Harris's Sparrow (best guess though). All of the features that don't fit seem to be explainable with the addition of white feathers (especially the crown/face region).

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

Out of curiosity, were the grey back and the hint of a black mark on the chin part of the reason to suspect a Harris' sparrow?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:50 PM

I agree that we need for shots if we're ever gonna get a definite ID, but I am having a very difficult time turning this into a Snow Bunting

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:05 PM

If you ask me this is definitely a snow bunting in winter plumage. White eyebrow with the brown cheek and bright orange beak.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:08 PM

Out of curiosity, were the grey back and the hint of a black mark on the chin part of the reason to suspect a Harris' sparrow?


Yes, definitely for me.

If you ask me this is definitely a snow bunting in winter plumage. White eyebrow with the brown cheek and bright orange beak.
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Your bird is indeed a Snow Bunting, but this bird has quite a few things that are off from the expected plumage (easiest to see is the difference in the white patterning on the wings between the two photos).

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:15 AM

Wow, I had no idea this photo (which btw, I almost didn't send in) would cause a controversy! Wish I had more photos for you- but, I'm sorry, I do not. I am new at this, and had no idea what it was exactly and quite frankly, at that moment my only thought was: "Ewww, look at that lovely little sparrow-like bird in that honeysuckle bush".
Thank you all for your replies- I read this forum every night and always learn something new! You all rock!




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