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#1 a.wren

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

Hanging out in my suburban front yard, 'cuz it's near the bird feeders...

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I want to say Red Shouldered hawk, because of the markings on the breast. Given the backlit view, through window and screen, I couldn't even make out any red on the shoulders with my binocs, but I can see a yellow eye and the regular, even breast markings, as well the absence of the belly banding of a Red-Tailed.

So, can you confirm or correct my ID?

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

No white markings on the secondaries make this a young Accipiter. I'm not comfortable IDing it to species with this shot alone, although I wouldn't be surprised if Psweet could :)

Any other shots would be helpful, too!

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

Agree with juvie accipiter - either a sharp-shinned or a Cooper's.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:46 PM

Here's the whole set on Flickr--really bad exposures until he moved to a different tree, and then better.

http://www.flickr.co...ey/8222160208/

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:52 PM

Looks like a Cooper's to me. The outer tail feathers appear to be shorter, plus its got thinner streaking as you go down the breast.

EDIT: This was based on looking at the additional photos, not just the OP's first photo.

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#6 a.wren

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:11 PM

All I can get from the band is a partial sequence that looks like 108-04..5. Does that tell us anything?

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:08 PM

This is the clearest picture, in classic field guide profile.

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I don't know why I'm so excited about seeing this bird--I guess because I've never seen a hawk in my yard before.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:16 PM

Because its an awesome picture :D I'd be excited at seeing it too ! It looks like a sharp shinned imho. Someone will be in shortly to correct me if i'm wrong !

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:19 PM

I see Cooper's

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:23 PM

I see Cooper's with a leg band!

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

Cooper's for me too.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

agreed, Coop.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

Actually, Wren, that band number may be sufficient, given that the bird is not only identifiable but aged as well. Here's a link to the Bird Banding Laboratory:

http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/bblretrv/

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

Actually, Wren, that band number may be sufficient, given that the bird is not only identifiable but aged as well. Here's a link to the Bird Banding Laboratory:

http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/bblretrv/


Thanks! I couldn't use the online form with the partial data, but I did email all the relevant info to them. It's possible they can make a match and if they do, I'll share what I find out on this thread.

Thanks everyone who helped with the species ID.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

Just to end the story about the incomplete number from the bird band: I got a prompt and courteous reply back from the Bird Banding Laboratory, that the needed the complete number in order to track the sighting. If I ever see a banded bird again, I am going to keep on taking pictures, even when the bird isn't in an ideal pose for determining an ID or getting an attractive photo. Because, who knows, I might capture the entire band code that way.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 10:17 PM

Ah, well....

It was worth a try.




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