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#1 Shoveler26

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

Hey guys,
I went birding today and was talking to my good freind who happends to be a Ornithologist named Kevin Carlson, He said that we get Pink-sided Junco in Indiana, He said This looked like one, Eagle creek park, IN

Can you guys confirm?
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

looks good :)

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#3 Shoveler26

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:59 PM

Thanks! I thought it looked like a Female.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

I don't think I'd be willing to call this one to subspecies - these females can be a real mess. I can't find any info on Pink-sideds in Indiana or Illinois, though. We do get a few Oregons.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:25 PM

eBird (not exactly the record committee, but still not a bad source) has zero records in Indiana, one in Illinois, and one in Wisconsin. I'm surprised he says you have Pink-sided in Indiana. If you do they certainly aren't easy to find among the Oregon and female Slate-colored.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:26 PM

I am going to go with What the ornithologist said, He said he has photograghed one Pink Sided today. he is an Ebird editor and has said the range point maps in some books are not right , Every year we get them at the feeder but not regularly.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

I am going to go with What the ornithologist said, He said he has photograghed one Pink Sided today.

David Sibley is probably wrong sometimes, just saying. I don't think we would mind seeing his photos if possible. Has he sent anything to the record committee?

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#8 Shoveler26

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

I dont know I will have to ask Kevin, But he said no one knows it but Indiana and parts of Illinois do get Pink sided, very rarely Oregon and Mostly Slate colored. Here is a List from Most common to most rare (Junco subspecies). Oh and Kevin Has birded with Ken Kaufman, David Sibley!

1. Slate colored
2. Pink sided
3. Oregon

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:09 PM

Well, if he believes this and expects others to agree, he needs to start providing some documentation -- I've never seen a bird here that I could call Pink-sided.

#10 Shoveler26

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:01 PM

Here is something i copied and Pasted from the Indiana Audubon, It states that we do get them casually to the state


Resembles the Pink-sided Junco (Fig. ... New Mexico, Chihuahua, and Texas, and east casually to Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, and Maryland.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

Casually means once every 5 to 10 years, I believe. (The exact definition varies to an extent with the source, but it always means less than 1/year.)

#12 Shoveler26

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 11:42 PM

I will have to get further information from Kevin. but he did say that we get them from Time to time so that could mean every 5 to 10 years.

My Recent Lifers: Black-billed cuckoo,Black bellied Whistling duck, Olive Sided flycatcher, Alder Flycatcher, Worm-Eating Warbler, Eurasian Wigeon, Brewer's Blackbird, Scissor Tailed Flycatcher- All seen in Indiana this year. 

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:40 AM

Casually means once every 5 to 10 years, I believe. (The exact definition varies to an extent with the source, but it always means less than 1/year.)


Then I can't imagine what "rare" means!
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:43 AM

Then I can't imagine what "rare" means!

"casual" is actually more uncommon then "rare" :)

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:28 AM

"casual" is actually more uncommon then "rare" :)


Oh. That makes perfect sense.

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