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#21 dklucius

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

i imagine this is a oregon type male junco even though not as distinct changes in color and being in direct sunlight appears lighter than normal on back?


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:37 PM

a diferent oregon lighter color hood and more brown on back Maybe a young male or a female?


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:48 PM

A couple DE Juncos from my yard, on two different days.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

The first one looks like a Female Oregon, and the second pic looks like a Male Oregon! Awesome birds.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

Not familiar with the subspecies, as all we get here usually are these:



We just call them "Juncos" ;)

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:40 AM

Yep the common Subspecies in the east, Slate colored (Dark Eyed Junco). Awesome picture!

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

I tried posting this in the main "Help me Identify a Bird" forum a couple of weeks ago, but didn't get much of a response. I hope you don't mind I'm trying again in your topic.
I'm assuming that this is a Slate Coloured Dark-eyed Junco, but I'm wondering about the brownish patch on it's back and the head being so much darker. Are these features common for the Slate-coloured Junco? The photo was taken a couple of weeks ago in London, Ontario. Is it possible that it's either a Cassiar, or S.C./Oregon hybrid? According to eBird both Cassiar and Oregon have been recorded in Southern Ontario, although pretty uncommon.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Hmm Well that looks like a First winter, Male Slate colored. Notice in the books that it says that the first winter male slate colored junco does have a rufous/rusty patch on its back.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:02 AM

Ok, I am posting some of my Junco's here, as requested by Shoveler26.
4 subspecies, plus one partially leucistic slate-colored.
Since there are several, I will post the thumbnails on this thread. You can click on the thumbnails for larger view.

Slate-colored (male)
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White-winged with Slate-colored
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White-winged tail feathers showing 4th tail feather
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3>Oregon
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Pink-sided
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Partially Leucistic Slate-colored

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Edit: I just saw that one of the requests at the beginning of this thread was to discuss range. Where the Juncos are/were. All of these photos were taken in my yard in Garden County Nebraska during the month of December, 2012.
I still do not know enough about Juncos to be able to tell if any of my other unidentified juncos would fall neatly into a subspecies category or not, but these 4 are all expected and normal visitors at this time of year here. The only other subspecies I am aware of and have found information for is Gray-headed, and I have not seen one of those in my yard.

It would be interesting to see a place that listed all the subspecies online. (I have seen the number 15 for subspecies, but have never found names or field marks for more than the 5 named above, and the field marks listed for them have been meager)

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:40 PM

Well, it's not a good day when your out of likes at 10:41! :(

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

all the photos i have posted on this forum were taken from my kitchen window in last two weeks. La Plata County Colorado outside of Durabgo Colo. two more from this morning similar birds but vary a little in coloration. hoping for confirmation or guess on what they are? first one a little darker hood but less brown on back and the second a lighter hood and more brown and some more buff on belly.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:21 PM

second bird same camera same settings same time of day


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:21 PM

Speaking of Juncos, I definitely recommend viewing the Ordinary Extraordinary Junco. I went to the premiere a few weeks ago, and it provides you with more insight about a little-known bird. I think it will be released online in early January.

The only subspecies I've seen in the wild are Slate-colored Juncos. The rest of the subspecies (or at least, most of them) that I've seen were in captivity at a research facility a few miles east of Bloomington, IN.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:57 PM

Well, it's not a good day when your out of likes at 10:41! :(


Happens to me all the time (well, the actual time differs, but you get what I mean). Don't really understand why there's a limit at all...
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:08 PM

I know I'm shooting at the moon here but is this a red-backed Junco?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

That is correct gray headed, or Red backed junco

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

the red backed and the grey headed are slightly different sub species of the dark eyed juncos. the red backed are found mostly in the mountains of eastern Arizona and the grey headed are all over the lower rocky mountains. the red backed have a lighter under body and the grey headed are more uniform grey and the red backed junco has a silvery bill..

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:19 AM

the red backed and the grey headed are slightly different sub species of the dark eyed juncos. the red backed are found mostly in the mountains of eastern Arizona and the grey headed are all over the lower rocky mountains. the red backed have a lighter under body and the grey headed are more uniform grey and the red backed junco has a silvery bill..


Thanks for the info, dklucius. That will help me in the future with identification. :)
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:53 PM

Im going to bring this topic back with what i think could be either a Cassiar Junco or a Slate colored. Im guessing slate colored. but Im not sure, Heres a shot I got: Feel free to Add more Junco Pics!!

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:42 PM

From the grand canyon.

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