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#1 Grandpa577

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:43 AM

Taken today at Calverton, NY. Can't figure out small bird. Other two look like Common Grackle and Red-winged Blackbird.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:39 AM

do you have any other pictures? I have a few theories but it depends on a few things.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:04 AM

the small one almost looks like an eastern phoebe but its hard to say.. any other pictures?

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

I was thinking Brown-headed Cowbird, given the company, but I'm not confident.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

The bill's too fine for a Cowbird. It almost looks like a Yellow-rumped with some pretty bad lighting.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

That white throat does seem to fit YRWA. Hard to be sure though.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

I think it's too big to be a yellow-rumped, but I'm not sure I have any better ideas. It does seem to have a warbler jizz. Eastern phoebe would have a lighter belly.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

How about a European Starling for the bird on the left? If that is the bird in question!

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

The OP was asking about the small bird -- I took that to mean the upper right.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

The OP was asking about the small bird -- I took that to mean the upper right.

Oh, I see. I should have read the post a little better, I thought the bird on left was in question. To my untrained eye, the one on the left looks like a Starling. I did see the OP post a great picture of thousands or Grackles in a separate post so this is probably one too.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

i know an eastern phoebe has a lighter belly but the picture is all shadowy so its hard to make out plumage. also, the bill looks to thin and petite for brown headed cowbird

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:37 PM

At first I was thinking the bill was hidden some how, but now I'm not sure. It does appear to have a tiny bill, but it looks too big, compared to the other birds to be a Yellow-rump, and the shape looks a bit plump for a Phoebe, or a yellow-rump.

It almost looks bluebird shaped, but that doesn't seem to fit the color pattern either. I'm stumped.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

Yeah, yellow-rumped was my first thought, then eastern bluebird, but neither is quite right.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:17 PM

Bluebird was my first impression, but I can't get the colors to work out, so I don't know.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

i see a white throat on it

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:32 PM

My vote is E. bluebird female

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:35 PM

I think female eastern bluebird is exactly right. I wish I'd thought of it myself. As soon as I read it, I thought, "That's it!" The shadows and exposure make the colors hard to define, and the angle of the head may make the throat appear a bit lighter than it actually is (because it's getting more light on it), but if you just do a Google image search of eastern bluebirds, you'll find some with paler throats.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:32 PM

i think the forehead is too slanted (not enough curve for a EBB) more on a swallowish profile but I don't have a guess

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

wow, it does look like an eastern bluebird, i think thats it too.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:53 AM

After looking through the photos, I feel confident that the bird is a Brown-headed Cowbird. I know the bill appears to be all wrong, but I suspect that what makes it seem so thin is a small branch on the tree. Based on the presence of Cowbirds in the flock and the overall coloring and shape (excepting bill) it fits for a female Brown-headed Cowbird. (The following photo is not the same bird.)

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