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#1 newbirder jeff

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

ok there was a bird report out here about a zone-tailed hawk roosting with a bunch turkey vulters and i was wondering if this bird looks like a zoned-tailed hawk becuase 1 the eyes look like a hawk also to look for the head and eye look to the top middle of the feathers on belly it will be right there

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

Seems like I'm looking at the back of the bird. I don't see a head or eye.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

Welcome to Whatbird, Jeff! I agree, you may have attached the wrong photo. FWIW, looks like a Turkey Vulture but a better shot would be useful to confirm it. Also, including location will always help for IDs.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

hi jeffrey, glad you made it in here :) jeffrey is a freind of mine on facebook everyone and i told him about this website . welcome jeffrey :)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

can't make out much but does look like a TV

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

when posting your pictures jeffrey, dont forget to tell location, etc in southern california ;)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:56 PM

Welcome to Whatbird, Jeff! I agree, you may have attached the wrong photo. FWIW, looks like a Turkey Vulture but a better shot would be useful to confirm it. Also, including location will always help for IDs.

naww, he attached the right photo as he showed me the same photo on facebook wanting an id so i referred him here, i thought it looked like a turkey vulture as well but wasnt wure

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

This line has people confused - "look for the head and eye look to the top middle of the feathers on belly it will be right there." There are no belly feathers in the pic - just tail, wings and back, as far as I can tell.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:54 AM

Hey I know Jeffrey too - promised to take him birding in Georgia sometime. :P

Looks like a Turkey Vulture to me as well - too bronzy-brown and wide-feathered for ZTHA.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:03 AM

Hey I know Jeffrey too - promised to take him birding in Georgia sometime. :P

Looks like a Turkey Vulture to me as well - too bronzy-brown and wide-feathered for ZTHA.


Liam... as I see this photo, I cannot see anything like you are commenting about. Are you processing this photo and making comments from your edited photos???

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:07 AM

This line has people confused - "look for the head and eye look to the top middle of the feathers on belly it will be right there." There are no belly feathers in the pic - just tail, wings and back, as far as I can tell.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:10 AM

Liam... as I see this photo, I cannot see anything like you are commenting about. Are you processing this photo and making comments from your edited photos???

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Rest assured, I'm not editing the photos and infringing Jeffrey's copyright! Maybe my screen is brighter (or perhaps my color deficiency plays a role here?), but the bronzy-brown color is fairly clear to me. At least, it's not the dull dark-brown/black I'm accustomed to seeing on (pics of) Zone-tailed Hawks.

Would you like me to do an edit?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:12 AM

i just looked at this picture again, i can see a little bit of the beak and a reddish face in this picture. its a turkey vulture.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Okay, this picture has me confused. While I agree that it's a turkey vulture, I can't figure out the birds position or see features like the eyes, beak, or head that others see. Based on the direction of feather layering and assuming that the lead feathers overlap trailing feathers, I would say the bird is facing us but everyone else sees the bird's back. Perhaps someone could do an edit to bring out more detail and point out what I am missing.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:02 PM

What you see in the middle of the bird is the secondaries and coverts, with the primaries coming together in the lower left, so we are seeing the back of the bird. I don't see any barring on the primaries, and I do see pale shafts on all 4 primaries that are clearly visible. So I'll agree with Turkey Vulture.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

Jeffrey gave me permission to edit the photo. I brightened it a bit, so the bronzey-brown is more apparent.

I still can't find the head or beak.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:24 PM

I see the bill and a tiny bit of the face now. Look at the uper surface of the forked branch where the fork meets the main branch, there is maybe half-an-inch of bill visible.

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