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#1 Justin

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:36 AM

My wife saw this at a garage sale. I was wondering what it is. She was told European water bird. Sorry that it is dead. I agree that it would be more beautiful if alive.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:45 AM

Hmmm... a Ghost Bird? :)

I see no photo. I know some people use Flckr, I use imgur. I'm sure there are other sites and/or methods which allow for easy posting of pics. There is a thread on Whatbird somewhere that gives all the details but I'm not sure where it is exactly any more. (My memory is about as blank as the spot your photo should have been.) Maybe someone else can help you out... :mellow:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

Ok. Personally, I'm dying to see this one!
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#4 Justin

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

Hmm

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

Looks like some great Auk or something!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:03 PM

Haha! That was my thought! How big is it? Definitely an alcid of some sort. I wonder how many mounted great auks there are?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:22 PM

I wonder if this could be a 1st winter razorbill? Length would be about 17"

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

1st winter razorbill
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:44 PM

Razorbill was a thought, too. I don't know what alcids there are in places other than North America.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

Nothing in the North Atlantic -- there's a couple of Japanese species that don't make it to N. Am, and one (Long-billed Murrelet) that's a vagrant. All of the others occur normally in N.Am.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

Ok. I'm pretty sure this is not legal to have in possession. Just an FYI. ;)
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Ok. I'm pretty sure this is not legal to have in possession. Just an FYI. ;)

egads this route was taken before with disastrous results :o
What do you think about the bird species?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:32 PM

egads this route was taken before with disastrous results :o
What do you think about the bird species?


Like I said. Just an FYI, OP might not want to continue posting on other sites. Not judging. I'm sure OP did not know about the law. As for the exact ID, don't know......
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Like I said. Just an FYI, OP might not want to continue posting on other sites. Not judging. I'm sure OP did not know about the law. As for the exact ID, don't know......


But OP didn't say they bought it. Just saw at a garage sail. It could be that his wife just photographed it there.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

But OP didn't say they bought it. Just saw at a garage sail. It could be that his wife just photographed it there.


Oh, ok, let's go with that. Doesn't that seem to be such a random thing to find at a garage sale? I mean, a stuffed pheasant or duck I could see, but a razorbill? I wonder what the story is behind that? Just curious. :huh:
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:45 PM

I have no taxidermy just want to know what it is.
It was very old. I'd say its definitely more than 50 years old maybe older. Hmm. So great auk or this 1st winter thing? I thought it was a penguin of some kind.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

I have no other taxidermy and honestly had and still have no idea what this is. It is very old. I'd say its definitely more than 50 years old maybe older. I could measure it.


Remember, you don't own this one either, you photographed it at a garage sale. ;)
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#18 Justin

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

Wings were short and stubby

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

The laws that govern possession of dead birds had grandfather clauses, I believe, so if it's old enough it would be perfectly legal. And from what I've been able to find, it isn't a Great Auk -- they should have a white patch in front of the eye. (They'd also be big, nearly 3 feet long.) A Razorbill would be the closest living relative.

A Penguin would have no visible bend in the wing, just the joint at the shoulder.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

The laws that govern possession of dead birds had grandfather clauses, I believe, so if it's old enough it would be perfectly legal. And from what I've been able to find, it isn't a Great Auk -- they should have a white patch in front of the eye. (They'd also be big, nearly 3 feet long.) A Razorbill would be the closest living relative.

A Penguin would have no visible bend in the wing, just the joint at the shoulder.


I thought the act was started in 1918? Bird looks less than 90 years + old to me. :)
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