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Yet another sparrow!!!

Last post 03-30-2008, 11:34 AM by Ephily. 21 replies.
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  •  03-27-2008, 10:31 PM 29537

    Yet another sparrow!!!

    I have flocks of these sparrows all of the sudden, feeding on the ground.  Don't quite fit the house sparrow, american tree sparrow, or white-throated sparrows, nor the song sparrows that I have seen.

     

     

     

    I know you will educate me right now--thank you in advance for your help! 


    "So many sparrows, so little time!"
  •  03-27-2008, 11:42 PM 29552 in reply to 29537

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    I think it fits best for American tree sparrow.
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  •  03-28-2008, 1:18 AM 29555 in reply to 29552

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Markings on the chest don't suggest tree sparrow, more like Song Sparrow???
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  •  03-28-2008, 4:29 AM 29560 in reply to 29555

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Song Sparrow.
    Warbler Life List: 35 species
    Sparrow Life List: 18 species
    Owl Life List: 9 species
  •  03-28-2008, 6:37 AM 29564 in reply to 29552

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

     

     Tree sparrows don't have a streaked chest like that, and I don't see the conspicuous black dot either.

     I'd guess song sparrow, but the head doesn't look right, too much gray.Embarrassed


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  •  03-28-2008, 8:45 AM 29585 in reply to 29537

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    I dont have my Sibley with me at work... fox sparrow?
  •  03-28-2008, 9:09 AM 29600 in reply to 29585

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Fox sparrows have a brown cheek area and look almost like a thrush.  Sparrows are very difficult to ID, arent' they?  I've been actually considering getting a field guide to keep in my desk just for things like this!!  I need my Peterson's!
    Matthew 6:26
  •  03-28-2008, 9:22 AM 29604 in reply to 29600

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    i'm not a fan of the LBJ's!  (little brown jobs, as an old professor of mine called the little brown sparrows that were just too tough to ID in the field).  same thing with gulls.
  •  03-28-2008, 12:54 PM 29625 in reply to 29604

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    With sparrows, practice makes perfect. Study them in the field as much as you can and after a while they're just like any other group of birds.
    Warbler Life List: 35 species
    Sparrow Life List: 18 species
    Owl Life List: 9 species
  •  03-28-2008, 2:03 PM 29630 in reply to 29625

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Like TheGrine said, practice makes perfect. And this sure is a Song Sparrow.
  •  03-28-2008, 6:40 PM 29685 in reply to 29537

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Yes, a Song sparrow.
  •  03-28-2008, 9:04 PM 29702 in reply to 29685

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Are the pics of the same bird?

    The first two are Song Sparrows, but the last looks like a Swamp Sparrow.


    Good Luck Birding
    Josh
  •  03-28-2008, 10:44 PM 29713 in reply to 29702

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    joshc, I can see why you ask if these are the same bird.  They are, but they move so fast that the first pic is in a mulched flowerbed where a heavy bird feeder fell.  That's why the ground is so dark.  Just outside that area, where it is completely a muddied ran down trail, my red doberman girl makes a perimeter trail.   That is why the ground looks so different.  But I used burst, & went through many pics to get a handful that could identify.  I thought song sparrow, but I am completely unsure.  I think I have down the house sparrow (definite mask,)  american tree sparrow (spot on the chest,) white-throated sparrow (white throat, yellow eye spot,) &  the song sparrow.   But the song sparrows I have seen are so much lighter in their markings; not so brilliant.  Sparrows are so tricky!!!!   I thank you all for your insight!!!  You are invaluable!  :)

    "So many sparrows, so little time!"
  •  03-29-2008, 8:06 AM 29738 in reply to 29713

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Attachment: WhatbirdSwamp.jpg

     The first two pics are of a Song Sparrow, but the last is a Swamp, I am sure of it.  Are you sure while you were snapping shots the Swamp Sparrow came in and the Song Sparrow went?

    Look at the lower sides, or flanks.  On the Song Sparrow, there is clearly heavy streaking, on the flanks of the Swamp Sparrow there is no streaking, it is solid gray.  Also the back pattern isn't right, and either is what we can see of the face. 

    Here is the pic of the Swamp Sparrow with its flanks highlighted.  Next is the Song Sparrow with its flanks highlighted.  

     



    Good Luck Birding
    Josh
  •  03-29-2008, 8:06 AM 29739 in reply to 29738

    Re: Yet another sparrow!!!

    Attachment: WhatbirdSong.jpg



    Good Luck Birding
    Josh
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