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Some more help please?

Last post 07-07-2009, 10:21 AM by spottedowl. 15 replies.
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  •  06-26-2009, 2:54 PM 103093

    Some more help please?

    I think this might? be an Eastern Meadowlark?

     


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  •  06-26-2009, 3:06 PM 103094 in reply to 103093

    Re: Some more help please?

    Female Rose-breasted Grosbeak. The Meadowlark has a longer,thinner bill. Note the female purple finch-like face pattern.

    New Additions to Life List: black-bellied plover, whimbrel,solitary sandpiper, common nighthawk, American redstart
  •  06-26-2009, 3:15 PM 103095 in reply to 103094

    Re: Some more help please?

    Thank You so much!
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    Latest backyard birds: Merlin,
    Scarlet Tanager, Eastern Phoebe, White Breasted Nuthatch, Tufted Titmouse.
  •  06-26-2009, 3:18 PM 103097 in reply to 103093

    Re: Some more help please?

    looks like a Redwing Blackbird female to me
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  •  06-26-2009, 3:21 PM 103098 in reply to 103094

    Re: Some more help please?

    Attachment: _DSC3659.jpg
    spottedowl:
    Female Rose-breasted Grosbeak. The Meadowlark has a longer,thinner bill. Note the female purple finch-like face pattern.
    here is a female rosebreasted grosbeak female

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  •  06-26-2009, 3:26 PM 103099 in reply to 103098

    Re: Some more help please?

    Attachment: untitled.jpg
    and here is a female redwing

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  •  06-26-2009, 3:31 PM 103101 in reply to 103093

    Re: Some more help please?

    Red-winged blackbird was my first thought as well, although the streaking looks very faint on the underparts, and now that it's been brought up, I can see it as a grosbeak too.  I can't tell enough about the bill.  Do you have a picture that shows it better?
  •  06-26-2009, 5:19 PM 103109 in reply to 103101

    Re: Some more help please?

    It is a grosbeak. The malar stripe is too bold for red-wing.
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  •  06-26-2009, 5:52 PM 103110 in reply to 103109

    Re: Some more help please?

    This is the only other one...very very poor quality.


    Northern Alleghenies of Western Pa.

    Latest backyard birds: Merlin,
    Scarlet Tanager, Eastern Phoebe, White Breasted Nuthatch, Tufted Titmouse.
  •  06-26-2009, 6:12 PM 103115 in reply to 103110

    Re: Some more help please?

    Looks even more like a red-wing to me after this second picture.
  •  06-26-2009, 6:19 PM 103116 in reply to 103115

    Re: Some more help please?

    Look at the color of the auriculars on the bird in question- dark. Same with the picture of the grosbeak. But the RWBB has pale auriculars, as shown in the kiwi's photo.
    Last Life Birds-
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    American Avocet, Stilt Sandpiper, Pectoral Sandpiper, Red Knot

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  •  06-27-2009, 10:36 AM 103205 in reply to 103116

    Re: Some more help please?

    Corbett:
    Look at the color of the auriculars on the bird in question- dark. Same with the picture of the grosbeak. But the RWBB has pale auriculars, as shown in the kiwi's photo.
    Female RWBB
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  •  07-02-2009, 10:02 AM 104066 in reply to 103205

    Re: Some more help please?

    It does look like a red-wing, but I'm going to stick with rose-breasted grosbeak. The bird seems to be wet, making it appear darker. As Corbett noted the auriculars are dark.

    New Additions to Life List: black-bellied plover, whimbrel,solitary sandpiper, common nighthawk, American redstart
  •  07-02-2009, 4:21 PM 104123 in reply to 104066

    Re: Some more help please?

    I can't reconcile those buffy edges on the coverts, that very straight looking malar and such dark colours with a r-b grosbeak.  Sibley mentions there are dark forms of 1st summer male redwings in all populations.  Perhaps this could be one.  I found one (very dark) example on the internet showing that the auriculars can be quite dark, but the breast doesn't match up well at all.  The gizz say RWBL, but I'm not convinced one way or the other.

    http://visitcranelake.com/images/blog/immature%20red%20wing%20blackbird.jpg

    Scott

  •  07-07-2009, 5:21 AM 104927 in reply to 103093

    Re: Some more help please?

    Since my OP ..I have snapped a few more pics, Now I know the original one is a Female RWB.

     

    And here is a good one of the Female RBG


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