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Blue bird, yellow bill
Last post 05-25-2008, 11:50 PM by JUST_ME. 137 replies.
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08-05-2007, 6:48 PM |
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Marybird
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
I would like to see your gallery, but I'm not sure how this works, either! I'm new to this web site and keep seeing posts by people talking about their bird photos, but I don't get how to access them. If someone could explain, I'd appreciate it. I can't even use the spell check function (it results in an error message or a download message) or the "quick reply" function---it crashes my computer. (I only check in once every few days, so may not be back until mid-week.) Thanks
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08-06-2007, 1:10 PM |
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dalang
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
I will try again with the photos but every time I try, the page saying oops comes up. I have been able in the past to upload but no luck lately.
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08-06-2007, 8:37 PM |
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birdseye
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
are you hitting "reply" at the top of this post? ...hit "options"....(when i hit the tree symbol above where i am typing, i get that oops page)..hit "add/update."...browse on your computer for the photo...hit save...hit the compose button, and finish typing, then post...this is how i get it to work,,,who knows..good luck
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08-12-2007, 6:34 PM |
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dalang
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
Hi, thank you but I just tried it again and it didn't work. It just tries for the longest time and then the oops error message comes up.
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04-21-2008, 1:22 AM |
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JUST_ME
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
Hi I just saw my first one this week. ( Indigo bunting) I noticed the same thing you did, that the beak seemed to be yellow in some angles, and looked black most of the time, especially with binoculars.
Are you still visiting this website ? : )
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05-04-2008, 1:32 PM |
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PSP@whatbird
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
I am curious to know what this bird is also. I saw a 'similar/maybe the same as' bird today in Baltimore,MD. I thought he was a Indigo Bunting also, except as everyone has noticed, he had a yellow beak. He was the brightest bluest bird I ever saw. He seemed almost fluorescent .Of course by the time I got the camera he was gone. I will keep the camera ready.
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05-17-2008, 6:40 AM |
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pjsinky
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
Am I crazy? We have seen a very small, very bright blue bird at our feeders off and on for 3 years. It is not a bluebird as we have those and this is very different. It has a yellow beak and it is not just yellow it is pointed. Not at all the chunky beak of a grosbeak. We will try to get a pic this year if we see again now that we have found this site and post it.
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05-17-2008, 8:12 AM |
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SlHall
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
This is my first posting, so I hope I am doing this right. We have recently relocated to Southwest Missouri and have (within the past 3 weeks or so) been noticing this same type of bird. I saw it again this morning and finally decided to look into what type of bird it is, so here I am! I also noticed someone from Northwest Arkansas had also posted a message about seeing a similar bird, which would make sense, since we are in the same geographical area. I am not so sure that the bird I'm seeing has a yellow beak. It seems to be darker. It also seems to have a little bit of black or dark brown on the wings.
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05-17-2008, 2:49 PM |
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pjsinky
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
well, my mystery is solved..Oddly enough that I posted this am, and now for the first time was able to get to my binoculars before it slipped away. It IS in fact an indigo bunting. I was sure it wasnt because of the yellow "look" to the beak but with the binoculars and the afternoon light being shaded by trees, I could clearly tell that is what it is. No new species/variety or anything but certainly a very pretty bird!
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05-18-2008, 3:57 PM |
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dbarnes
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
My wife gasped when she saw this bird at the feeder on our deck this morning, here in Minneapolis. It was about 11 am on a bright, sunny day. This is a mature urban forest environment of elms, lindens, maples, oaks and so on. There are two large lakes in the neighborhood, home to ducks and geese and, in recent years, a pair of loons or two. A large wooded cemetery nearby has an adjacent bird sanctuary. For a city setting, it's pretty bird-friendly.
We had a good look at the blue bird for about a minute from twelve feet away. I was just going for the camera when the bird flew off.
What we saw was a blue bird with yellow beak, finch sized. It had irridescent blue body feathers and a hint of gray in its wings. The beak was very yellow, not yellowish gray. We didn't notice the color of the legs and feet. Later in the day we had a male indigo bunting at the same feeder. It had decidedly gray wings and a black beak. We are not birders per se but we enjoy having little birds around. Our copy of Sibley's guide doesn't include this little blue guy. The web photos of that South American yellow-beaked blue finch don't show the iridescence that we saw in the yellow-beaked bird today. That the bunting would show up on the same day at the same feeder is curious and of course makes me wonder if we have some kind of exotic bunting family unit passing through. I understand the skepticism of those who suggest the mystery bird's beak just looked yellow but really wasn't. All I can say is that the color combination was striking, and that there was nothing unusual about the lighting conditions.
The feeder normally attracts purple finches, goldfinches, sparrows and
(less often) cardinals. It has black oil sunflower, millet, striped
sunflower and safflower seeds.
Spring is about three weeks later than usual here, FWIW.
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05-18-2008, 4:30 PM |
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Ronso
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
I've been reading this thread with the same skepticism that most have. I've had an Indigo Bunting (or maybe more, I'm not sure if it's the same one at my feeder) visiting my feeders today. Some times I would grab the binoculars and his beak was obviously gray-black. But I happened to look out at another time and it looked banana yellow. Upon close inspection, the bottom part of the jaw was yellow- but the top part was black- like in earlier pictures someone posted. It was definitely an Indigo Bunting. Without my binoculars, however, I would've assumed the entire beak was yellow. Glad he didn't fly away before I could grab them!
"Intelligent dogs rarely want to please people whom they do not respect." -William R. Koehler
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05-19-2008, 6:29 PM |
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
I don't know if this photo will download properly; I joined the Whatbird Forum today and I am new to the user capabilities. I ran into this Forum today while trying to ID a bird that I photographed a few days ago. The bird was Blue with a definite Yellow Bill. I live near the Great Smokey Mountains. I could not find the bird in any identification guides for North America, so I jumped on the internet and found this lively discussion. I have read all 130+ posts and replies in this Forum and am thus familiar with the different views including the Indigo Bunting Theory. It is clearly logical to use the scientific method of proof, such as a Photo. It looks in photo and to the eye, to be a Yellow Billed Blue Finch. Upon reading all 130+ responses to this subject, I am open-minded. A lot of wildlife on the globe appears to be changing behaviors, migrations, and territories. This is the First year that Brown-Headed Cowbirds and Great -Tailed Grackles have been on my property daily, even in the middle of May; AND the Bird ID guides and websites show that these two (2) birds should not even be in the Appalachian mountains at this time. I realize that the example is not the same as a bird from another Continent. But, there is land all the way from Brazil to North America. Is it probable? NO. Is it possible? YES. So, I am open-minded.
Upon reading all the responses, It is my observation that there are many reports of this Bird from a lot of regions in North America. But, they also appear to be new in bird observation history; all starting within the last few years. A Blue bird with a Yellow beak? It is not as though bird watchers have been reporting this bird phenomenon for the last 40 years. It appears to be new in observation history. I don't believe that all of the reports of the Bird in question were made by individuals that suddenly starting seeing the same phenomenon, all beginning within the last few years; When previously, the subject of confusion between a Yellow billed Blue bird in North America was not a subject of confusion for birdwatchers in North America. So, I am open-minded.
I hope the photos download. Maybe it only gives a link. I have enjoyed this Forum. Very Helpful, Thank you all.
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05-19-2008, 6:37 PM |
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featherbrain
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
AppalachianBirdLover:
Your bird is definitely an Indigo Bunting. I live in Ringgold, GA, don't know if you're familiar with it, but very close to Chattanooga, so I am very familiar with the birds of the Smokies. The bird in the photo is a perfect example of an Indigo Bunting, no doubt about it.
Hope this helps!
featherbrain Try out my photo quiz!Life is simple: Eat, Sleep, and BIRD! "Walk softly and carry a big scope!"
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05-19-2008, 6:39 PM |
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
Good, the photo downloaded. Here is another. You have to click on them and enlarge them by using the Expand button that pops up in the lower right hand corner.
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05-20-2008, 10:56 AM |
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Re: Blue bird, yellow bill
INDIGO BUNTING : Bill and gape
Males (adults in breeding season): upper mandible blackish, especially on culmen, lower mandible including the mandibular rami blue-gray, the gonys blackish. First-year males have yellowish gape into May, then it becomes dark gray. Females: upper mandible brown to blackish, the lower mandible pinkish horn color, the gape in spring yellowish until nesting when it changes to horn color. Males and females, all ages, nonbreeding season: bill paler, whitish to brownish or blue-gray, gape yellowish; the gape first appearing yellowish during molt in late summer.
Joe Morlan,
I really appreciate the description above that you included in your response. It explains why people are seeing an Indigo Bunting with a yellowish bill or Gape. It is clearly because Indigo Buntings DO HAVE a Yellowish Bill or Gape, at certain times of the year or and/or age of the bird. Some people on this Forum have continued to tell people that they are not seeing a Yellowish Bill, but instead a Grayish Bill. I do not think that telling people that they are not seeing a Yellowish Bill is very helpful at all. It is clear that such an extreme attitude is what has caused controversy and frustration on this Post concerning a Blue bird with a Yellowish bill. From your description of the Indigo Bunting with a Yellowish bill at certain times of the year and/or age of the bird, it is absolutely possible and probable that this is what many people ARE seeing.
I think the main problem is those individuals that are telling people that they could not have seen an Indigo Bunting with a Yellowish Bill, or trying to convince people that they are seeing Gray when they are actually seeing Yellow, as described in your factual identification criteria for the Indigo Buntings Bill and Gape.
It must be very frustrating for people that have seen the Indigo Bunting with a Yellowish Bill and tell people on this Forum about it; Only to be told that they are not seeing Yellow, but Gray instead. Your criteria clearly states that the Indigo Bunting DOES HAVE a Yellowish Bill at certain times and/or age of the bird. That is the answer.
I also see a yellowish bill on Indigo Buntings at certain times. Not sunlight factors or angles of perception. But, clearly a Yellowish bill. I even posted a picture and someone replied and told me that they saw no Yellow at all, only Gray. I have shown the same picture to at least ten people and all say that they see a Yellowish bill. So, I don't think that we are ALL color blind. I think that the individual that sees a Gray bill where others see a Yellowish bill, might be limited in their own criteria of what they believe an Indigo Bunting can possess concerning Bill and Gape colors.
Joe,...I really appreciate your balanced perspective and your confirmation that the Indigo Bunting does have a Yellowish Bill at certain times and/or age of the bird. This explains what everyone is claiming to see. Because it is truly what they are seeing. An Indigo Bunting with a Yellowish Bill.
So as for those individuals that are trying to convince others that they are really seeing a Gray bill, when they believe that they have seen a Yellow billed Indigo Bunting; they should read your description of the Bill and Gape Colors for the Indigo Bunting, and stop trying to convince people that they are seeing Gray, not Yellow. This is an extreme attitude that only makes people feel as though someone is discounting their observations, perceptions, eyesight, and opinions concerning their sighting of a Yellow billed Indigo Bunting.
I see the Indigo Bunting with a yellowish bill on my property often. It clearly appears to have a Yellowish Bill, not Gray. Probably caused by the Yellowish Gape, as described in your ID criteria.
Joe, I appreciate your info on the Indigo Bunting with a Yellowish Bill/Gape.
Phil
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