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Help with bird id

Last post 10-23-2009, 8:03 PM by PoorMatty. 8 replies.
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  •  10-22-2009, 1:50 PM 121417

    Help with bird id

    http://picasaweb.google.com/bkacker/BirdsToIdentify?feat=directlink

    This link will take you to my photos on Picasa.  I'm having a great deal of problems posting here (with or w/o photos).  These photos were taken in S. Florida on 10/19 and 10/20.  Would appreciate confirmation of the chipping sparrow.  I think the others are Painted Bunting (female) but am not sure.  The bird is smaller than a Northern Cardinal, cone shaped bill, olive green uppers and yellow underneath, subtle white eyering.  Thanks for any help. 

  •  10-22-2009, 1:54 PM 121419 in reply to 121417

    Re: Help with bird id

    Perhaps this link will work better:

     


    http://picasaweb.google.com/bkacker/BirdsToIdentify#

     

  •  10-22-2009, 1:57 PM 121420 in reply to 121417

    Re: Help with bird id

    Looks good for female Painted Bunting. As for the Sparrow, I dunno, it looks a little more like a White-crowned Sparrow to me, but it's central crown stripe is brown...

    Total birds seen: 205
    Latest lifers:
    Brown Creeper, Field Sparrow, White-crowned Sparrow
    Favorite lifers:
    Black-billed Cuckoo, Reddish Egret, Wood Stork
  •  10-22-2009, 2:12 PM 121424 in reply to 121420

    Re: Help with bird id

    Definitely has a rufous cap.  I can put up another photo with the close up of the head if that would help.  If it were a White-crowned Sparrow, I assume it would be immature?
  •  10-22-2009, 3:12 PM 121433 in reply to 121424

    Re: Help with bird id

    Yes, it's an immature white-crowned sparrow.

    Scott

  •  10-22-2009, 4:12 PM 121446 in reply to 121433

    Re: Help with bird id

    Thanks.  Just so I know; how can I tell the difference?
  •  10-23-2009, 2:35 PM 121588 in reply to 121446

    Re: Help with bird id

    This bird is bulkier than a chipping, and the eye stripe in a chipping usually runs right through the eye to the bill.  This bird has spotted looking wing bars and a tail that doesn't look extra long for the size of the body.  The eyebrow on this bird looks like it put on mascara as it flares behind the eye.  That doesn't happen in chipping.  Chipping also has a narrower central crown stripe and the rufous stripes this time of year aren't so pure looking.

    Scott

  •  10-23-2009, 4:23 PM 121612 in reply to 121588

    Re: Help with bird id

    Thank you for taking the time to give me a thorough response.  I'm not familiar with either bird but we do get birds 'passing through' here who are not normally here in summer or winter. It's probably clear that I'm a novice birdwatcher but am trying to learn to be accurate in my identification.  I appreciate you giving me information on what to look for.
  •  10-23-2009, 8:03 PM 121648 in reply to 121612

    Re: Help with bird id

    I don't see this mentioned in the books, but I've also noticed that white crowned sparrow is the only sparrow that has a pale (usually grayish) back with rusty streaking, whereas most sparrows have a rusty back with at least some black streaking.  You can see this pretty well in your first photo.
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