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Last post 07-10-2008, 10:43 AM by brianflor. 20 replies.
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  •  07-03-2008, 12:52 AM 50084

    quick camera survey

    i am trying to figure out what kind of camera to buy to improve my photos.  I was wondering what kind of cameras everone else uses.  thanks.  nanaku
  •  07-03-2008, 2:37 AM 50092 in reply to 50084

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    Hello nanaku, I have a Canon EOS 40D... 
    Did they get you to trade, your hero's for ghosts?
  •  07-03-2008, 7:23 AM 50122 in reply to 50092

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    I bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 on sale at Walmart for $150 that works pretty good.  It's certainly enough for my skills at this time.  It will automatically set the parameters like shutter speed, exposure, etc. or you can manually set them.  My only complaint is that the manual is not very easy to understand, especially if you have no camera experience. 
  •  07-03-2008, 10:23 AM 50143 in reply to 50084

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    I use a Canon 10D DSLR. plus various glass (lens)

    wherther you get a point and shoot or a D-SLR you can't go wrong with a Canon but that is my opinion and my preferrence in camera due to the sensor tech they use (CMOS) the other is the CCD  cmos is a bigger sensor better quality again my opinion. 

    Norman_24  you got the camera body I want just have to keep saving my pennies (or should I say $$$'s ) Nice camera.

    Regards Peter


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  •  07-03-2008, 12:16 PM 50156 in reply to 50084

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    I use a reconditioned Olympus SP550UZ (which I purchased on Ebay)    I plan on buying a telephoto lens for it as soon as I can afford it. 

      There is a lot of "noise" when I have to use the zoom very much but I think it takes pretty decent pictures and I am happier with it now that I've learned that when I depress and hold the shutter button it will take shots in rapid succession.  It has a lot of features and I'm still learning about them all. 

     I did a lot of research on camera's before I made my purchase and I would have bought a Canon if I had the money.


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  •  07-03-2008, 1:41 PM 50166 in reply to 50156

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    Nikon D200, excellent camera that you can't go wrong with. There are many different cameras out there and everyone will have thier own opinion about the quality of each one. The only thing I can say to you is go to a camera shop and actually handle the cameras before you buy one. I liked the feel of the Nikon D200 over the Canon 30D, so, I bought the Nikon.
  •  07-03-2008, 1:44 PM 50167 in reply to 50143

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    thekiwi:

    I use a Canon 10D DSLR. plus various glass (lens)

    wherther you get a point and shoot or a D-SLR you can't go wrong with a Canon but that is my opinion and my preferrence in camera due to the sensor tech they use (CMOS) the other is the CCD  cmos is a bigger sensor better quality again my opinion. 

    Norman_24  you got the camera body I want just have to keep saving my pennies (or should I say $$$'s ) Nice camera.

    Regards Peter

     

    Thanks Peter, I saved for 6 months to get this camera and I'd still be saving, if it were not for the overtime at work... Currently using a Canon EF17-40 L lens and saving for a EF70-200 F/4 L lens and 1.4x tele...  I'll get my bird shot soon hopefully... No Overtime at the moment though.. Mortgage and truck payments have slowed me down a bit...

    BTW: The 40D is awesome to say the least... I just purchased it 4/30, so I'm still learning, particularly coming from a P&S...


    Did they get you to trade, your hero's for ghosts?
  •  07-03-2008, 2:28 PM 50171 in reply to 50167

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    Sensor Technology is probably out of the scope of this thread... as is probably individual camera brand.  Expense, pixel density and lens changeability are probably more important to birders and the ability to photograph unknown birds for later identification... and or printing.

    Expense is always important and the cost that one is willing to pay to take a good photograph depends on personal budget and commitment to the hobby.

    Pixel density is very important because sometimes when you cannot afford that 200-400mm zoom at $8000.00 for really capturing a full frame shot... pixel density combined with severe cropping will still yield a satisfactory picture.... at least for whatbird identification.  National Geographic quality pictures are rare and though we all strive for that "Great Capture" the reality is that it probably will not happen.

    If you choose a point and shoot because of budget constraints... that is OK but as you grow in birding and photography you may later be frustrated with your inability to change lenses. 

    In Photography you very quickly get much more money involved in the glass (lenses) than your camera body(s).

    Fraser

  •  07-03-2008, 10:57 PM 50244 in reply to 50171

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    If the question is point-and-shoot vs. SLR, for the last two years I've used a Nikon D80 (SLR) with 300mm f4 lens and 2x teleconverter. But for my first year of bird photography I used a Canon S2IS and a Panasonic FZ30 (both with teleconverters).

    A few comparisons.

    The point and shoot outfits cost less than $500, the SLR outfit, closer to $5000.

    The point and shoot equipment (particularly the Panasonic) is MUCH easier to use. When I began, with no photographic experience, I would not have had a clue how to use the Nikon.

    The point and shoot cameras are light and easy to carry around all day hiking. I can't hold my much heavier SLR camera and lens steady without a tripod.

    If you get nice and close, the point-and-shoot cameras can take very nice photos. For comparison, any of the photos in my gallery before about July 06 are point-and-shoot, and after that date are SLR. The last five photos posted to my gallery http://www.whatbird.com/forums/photos/nieblas_gallery/default.aspx (on the right see the "recently added" column), were all taken with point and shoot and are still some of my favorites.

    In part because of pixel density, in part because of the finer lens, and in part because of the way SLR cameras work, the SLR setup gives a much smoother image, capable (as photogog pointed out) of being blown up much more, without breaking down and turning grainy. Also it becomes possible to better correct for many of my photographic shortcomings after the fact, using photoshop. That's why, in spite of all the good points of point-and-shoot, I'm very happy with SLR now. But, for me, when I started, it would have been a mistake to lay out that kind of money right away for a camera I wouldn't have been able to handle.  

     

     


    Chris from Denver
  •  07-04-2008, 11:49 PM 50439 in reply to 50244

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    Chris Bourg is correct and his comments express the history and the direction that bird/wildlife photography evolve.  It is of no use to get an expensive camera with no knowledge of how to use it... also bigger is not easier to carry in the forest or whatever.  It depends on where the interested person will end up his journey in birding and or photography.

    I am going to post an example of high pixel capability and the benefits.  The picture is taken on the Greek Island of Karpathos... it is not a good picture but the only one that I took of this bird and a better lens was meters and minutes away.

     


  •  07-04-2008, 11:51 PM 50440 in reply to 50439

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    The second is one that uses the capability of the pixels to simulate a longer lens.
  •  07-05-2008, 2:17 AM 50451 in reply to 50440

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    I use a Sony DSC-H1.(or something like that) my family bought it cheap at $200, but it should be more expensive. I'm comfortable with it... Here's the best pic I took with it.

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  •  07-09-2008, 6:21 PM 51203 in reply to 50084

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    I use a Canon 40d with the following glass:

    Canon 24-105L f4

    Canon 70-200L IS f2.8

    Canon 300L f4

    Canon 1.4 extender

  •  07-09-2008, 7:52 PM 51216 in reply to 51203

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    I use a Canon 40D with a 100-400mm lens.
    ~cirrus
  •  07-09-2008, 8:27 PM 51250 in reply to 50084

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    I have a Sony DSC-H7. It has 8.1 MegaPixels and a 15x optical zoom. I was looking for a good camera when I saw this one at Wal-mart, where I work, about 4 months ago. It was priced at $399.99, but the Dept. Manager in the Photo Dept. told me she was going to be marking it down soon. She marked it down to $299.00, but that was a bit more than I had to spend on it at the time. A couple of weeks later I wandered by to see what was left, and she had just marked it down to $195.00!! needless to say I grabbed it. It has more bells and whistles than I know how to use... video, manuel settings, etc. So far I have only used it on automatic setting, pretty much point and shoot. I have been lucky enough to get some good shots with it ( along with many more not so great shots!!) Embarrassed But for what I paid for it, it is great. Many times I have wished for telephoto lens for a very far-away shot, but that's out of my price range right now. Maybe later on......... Huh?
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