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Which Canon lens should I buy?

Last post 07-27-2008, 3:46 PM by thekiwi. 14 replies.
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  •  07-20-2008, 4:47 PM 53116

    Which Canon lens should I buy?

    Looking for advise from the hard core photographers. 
     
    I have a Rebel XTi and shoot mostly wildlife (birds) and sporting events. I've been using the cheap 75-300 starter lens but want to upgrade. My son plays college football and I want a better lens before the fall season to shoot games from the stadium seats. Right now I have it down to:

    1) 70-200/f.4 L series
    2) 70-300/f.4 - 5.6 IS USM

    Questions:

    1. Because I shoot mostly hand held shots, is the IS feature more beneficial than the reported clarity of the L lens?

    2. Is the quality of the L lens pictures that much more that I give up the additional range? My son plays in the Ivy League where the stadiums are notoriusly far from the fields.

    3. Are ther other comparable lenses that I am overlooking? I'm not interested in spending thousands on top end L lenses.
  •  07-20-2008, 7:27 PM 53138 in reply to 53116

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    ok if it was me i would go for the IS lens you can get that with the L series as well but big big bucks so I guess I would get the 70-300 IS and if you can afford it a 1.4 extender don't go for the 2x extender or you will have to manually focus  but with the 70 300 and a 1.4 extender in good light you will get a reach of a 400mm lens plus and still operate auto 1.4extender cost about $260
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  •  07-20-2008, 7:51 PM 53142 in reply to 53138

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    You might be able to rent the lenses and try them out before you actually buy them. I don't know anything about Canon lenses {I have a Nikon D200}, but, if the games are at night, you probably won't have much luck using a long lens and a teleconverter to try and take action shots. If the games are during the day time hours, then you might be able to use the long lens with the 1.4 teleconverter depending on the amount of available light.
  •  07-20-2008, 8:32 PM 53146 in reply to 53138

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    I forgot to add to this for between $20 to $50 you can get a monopod.

    most of my images where done with a 70 - 300mm lens either Canon or Sigma But mine don't have IS  :(  wish they did so I use either a bean bag or a monopod  I have a tripod but by the time it is set up the shot is gone this is not the case with a monopod

    here is the link to my gallery http://www.whatbird.com/forums/photos/the_kiwis_gallery/default.aspx


    Birds high above in the trees Serenade the flowers with their melodies
  •  07-21-2008, 6:54 AM 53165 in reply to 53146

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    The answer depends on how much money you have to spend :-)    I absolutly love my 70-300 IS.  The focus is fast and sharp, the bokeh (background blur) @ 300mm is really nice, like in this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/rdatkins/131047780/ and the cost isn't too bad.   I read a lot of reviews on this lens and haven;t heard of anyone getting a "bad copy" like some of the other lenses.  For example I'm on my third 28-135 IS the first 2 were horrible, the last on was factory refurb and perfect.

    Just my $.02

     

  •  07-21-2008, 10:41 AM 53199 in reply to 53165

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    You asked about comparable lenses, and you probably have already considered it, but you might want to think seriously about the 100-400mm f4/5.6 L.  All my birdshots are taken with that lens.  Even though it is about 3 times the cost of the 70-300 IS, it is well worth it, and I'd consider 400mm to be the least with which to do some serious bird photography.  The problem with wildlife shooting is that no matter the size lens you have, it's never big enough.  Perhaps the 70-300 will get you started and later you can consider something bigger.  After all, used lenses hold their value and selling them is pretty easy.

     


    Paul Wolf
    www.paulwolf.smugmug.com
  •  07-21-2008, 12:54 PM 53209 in reply to 53116

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    I have the Canon Digital Rebel XTi with Canon IS 100-400mm Lens.  You can see some of my photos on my blog.

    I am no expert but I find the IS the most critical aspect of the lens. I wouldn't buy one without it for handheld photography. If buying again, I would look at the 400mm fixed IS lens. Almost all of my bird and wildlife photography is at the full zoom. The 400mm fixed has more clarity and can auto-focus with an extender (100-400 cannot). The 400mm fixed is also f4 at 400mm versus f5.6, which would be my second priority behind IS. 

     


    Rob Miller
    Blog: http://wolf21m.blogspot.com/
  •  07-22-2008, 6:15 AM 53284 in reply to 53209

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    Rob:
    Actually, you're right.  With my 100-400, I shoot at 400mm about 99% of the time.  I also shoot the vast majority of my shots from a tripod, so IS is less important for me, but there have been times when it was essential. 

    I don't know of a Canon 400mm f/4 IS prime lens, unless you're speaking of the 400mm DO, and that baby is expensive!  There is a 400mm f/5.6L, but it doesn't have IS.  If you've found an f/4, please let me know.  I sure would like to have something like that, assuming it won't cost me big bucks.

     


    Paul Wolf
    www.paulwolf.smugmug.com
  •  07-22-2008, 2:59 PM 53311 in reply to 53284

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    I couldn't agree with Paul more here, assuming you have the money... As you can see in my sig, the 100-400mm is on my list to get one day but it's on the tail end...  You could still do very well with the 70-200 f/4 L and 1.4x tele...  I've seen lots that have with that setup...
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  •  07-23-2008, 2:05 PM 53435 in reply to 53116

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    I was reading about a new lens been brought out by Canon and as you have a rebel it  may fit your camera as it is an EF-S mount it is a 55-250mm IS lens

    here is a review of it http://www.beyondmegapixels.com/2008/01/canon-efs-55-250mm-lens-review.html

    and ther is another review here

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082007canonefs18-55and55-250.asp

    It may be worth looking to it it looks promising at a reasonable price


    Birds high above in the trees Serenade the flowers with their melodies
  •  07-25-2008, 4:44 AM 53538 in reply to 53435

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    EF-S lenses are a very good and economical choice for cameras that accept them.  Before investing in them, however, one should realize the fact that a lens can be a very long-term investment, whereas a digital camera is most likely a short-term investment.  Given that, then, you run the risk of buying an EF-S lens that only fits EF-S mounts, which may not be available if you upgrade to a Canon that has the standard mount, whatever that's called.  Many folks may keep a camera, even a digital, for a very long time, and for that group maybe an EF-S is a good fit.  If, however, you think you may want to upgrade, you might want to consider investing in a lens that is most likely guaranteed (emphasize "most likely") to fit any Canon camera, current and future models.

    I have lenses that are 4 and 5 years old that still work great, but I've upgraded my camera three times during that period.  I always keep my older cameras thinking I'll use them as back-ups or carry them in the field with a different lens connected to it.  Thing is, I almost never use them.  Point is, I guess, lenses are forever; cameras, sadly, are not.

     


    Paul Wolf
    www.paulwolf.smugmug.com
  •  07-25-2008, 5:30 AM 53542 in reply to 53538

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    Thats when its nice to have a Nikon that all lenses fit. I can use old film lenses or new digital lenses and the mounts are all the same for Nikon.
  •  07-25-2008, 3:51 PM 53600 in reply to 53116

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    2) 70-300/f.4 - 5.6 IS USM

    I have this lens and LOVE it. I will never buy another lens without IS. I also have the 24-70L and the picture quality is nowhere as good. The 4.0 is nice, but really, 5.6 at 300m has a very blurry background.

  •  07-26-2008, 10:19 PM 53726 in reply to 53600

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    One more vote, I have the 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 IS

    An earlier comment was right on, your equipment will never be good enough.  I enjoy photography and enjoy my set up but wish I had better.  You can review my photos on this website.  Even with the IS, a monopod would be a good thing to have.  Biggest problem I have is depth of field for closer in work.  More depth of field requires more light which implies a bigger lens.  If you currently don't have a zoom you will be happy with the new toy whatever you choose.

     

    Matt

  •  07-27-2008, 3:46 PM 53777 in reply to 53726

    Re: Which Canon lens should I buy?

    zoutedrop:

    One more vote, I have the 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 IS

    An earlier comment was right on, your equipment will never be good enough.  I enjoy photography and enjoy my set up but wish I had better.  You can review my photos on this website.  Even with the IS, a monopod would be a good thing to have.  Biggest problem I have is depth of field for closer in work.  More depth of field requires more light which implies a bigger lens.  If you currently don't have a zoom you will be happy with the new toy whatever you choose.

     

    Matt

    Monopods are cheap enough and are easy to use

    DOF (Depth of Field) this is obtained by using the zoom lenses and the larger you set the aperture opening (the smallest number ie 1.8 2.8 4  5.6 etc)  the shallower your DOF will be so and fstop of 2.8 or 5.6 is going to give you a blurry Background (OOF) the smaller you make the aperture the more narrow will be your DOF ie a F22 will show most of the details in your Background (They will be in focus) I am finding for my Camera at least f8 is giving me the best DOF and of couse it goes without saying the higher you can get your shutter speed the better


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