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DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

Last post 06-09-2009, 1:06 PM by brad. 9 replies.
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  •  09-28-2008, 1:39 PM 60345

    DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    I have a Canon DSLR 10D Camera I live on a very restricted budget I would love to have an "L" series lens but I just don't have the extra cash to lay out $1,000 plus for glass like this. I had to go cheap so I read the reviews on the cheapies and ended up with a Sigma 70-300mm DG Macro  (the DG means digital lens) just lately my shots have been soft then they go back to sharp but I never know just what or how. Well for all of us with the cheaper lens I believe I have the answer as to why that is.

    I do a couple of experiments and this is what I came up with I can get a sharp image particularly in the center of the image if I stop down to f8 or f9 if I go under that f8 up to f5.6 the image begins to gets soft so try shooting at f8 or f9 you may have to increase the ISO in order to to bring your shutter speed up but I believe you will get sharper images. It cost nothing to try digital film is real cheap.

    Regards the kiwi 


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  •  10-10-2008, 7:53 AM 61661 in reply to 60345

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    Thnx Kiwi!! i need some new lenses and camera, so this realy helped me!!!Yes
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  •  11-23-2008, 4:52 AM 66832 in reply to 61661

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    Kiwi:

    You're absolutely right.  Every lens, pro-level or otherwise, has its sweet spot in terms of aperture setting.  Every lens in your bag should be tested to find that best setting.  For most lenses that I've tested, it seems to be around f/8 to f/11 as you have also discovered. 

    There are many more factors, however, that need to be considered in going for the sharpest images you can get.  One of the most important is understanding how to use a tripod.  Some folks I go out with simply mount the camera on the tripod and shoot.  They seem to think that simply using a tripod is all that is needed.  How they use it is what they need to understand.  One needs to take into account the focal length, shutter speed and how steady the tripod/head is given the shooting parameters.  For example, a long lens, such as a 500mm is extremely difficult for me to get sharp photos at anything less than 1/400th of a second.  At that focal length, at that speed, the slightest breeze seems to turn my images very soft. (So, there are other factors - environmental and weather conditions.)  Anyway, a 200mm lens, however, has no problems even at very slow shutter speeds.  So, practice how you steady the lens even when it's on the tripod - it's important. 

    Use a cable release and mirror lockup.  I used to shoot a lot with my 10D and the Canon 100-400mm lens on a heavy aluminum tripod.  I found, after months of frustration, that the aluminum tripod would vibrate horribly with the mirror slap, and that simply pressing my shutter button would cause movement.  Not a problem at very high shutter speeds, but starting in the range of 1/400 and below, shots were blurred.  I finally figured out that, whenever possible, I should at least use a cable release and, for slower speeds, lock up my mirror.  Tough to do with an active subject!  Then I discovered the wonderful performance of a carbon fiber tripod.  Man, did that cure a lot of ills! 

    Automatic focusing isn't always the answer.  I have never really trusted autofocus.  Most of the time it seems to work, but for really critical focusing (that bird's eye at a bit of a distance, for example), I still tend to rely on manual focus. Sometimes, you can actually be faster doing that.  I found that to be particularly true with the 10D and 20D, especially in low light.

    Always shoot multiple frames.  Often, the first shot in a series is soft because of camera movement when you pressed the shutter button.  But I have found that if you continue to hold the shutter button down for several frames, the 2nd or 3rd shot can be sharper than the first one.  That is, if you're doing the other stuff properly.

    Noise level.  Now, I know the old addage is just get the shot, no matter what.  Well, I found that excess noise just absolutely ruins the picture for me.  The 10D gets really noisey at ISO 400 and above especially if your lighting and other factors are not dead on.  So, here is one case where knowing your equipment can save a lot of frustration.  Knowing my ISO limitations on my 10D, and my distinct aversion to noise, I simply know I must shoot at nothing above ISO 200.  That, of course, limits my shooting to great light and makes it really tough to get my shutter speeds where they need to be.  But, for me, looking at a very noisey image makes me physically ill.  May be some kind of OCD!

    The point to all this is to do just what you did - experiment.  Only through constant attention to the various factors and understanding how they affect your work can you possibly hope to obtain the best results.  Oh, and shoot a lot, judge results objectively, and then go shoot some more. 

    Paul   

     


    Paul Wolf
    www.paulwolf.smugmug.com
  •  11-23-2008, 9:25 AM 66863 in reply to 66832

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    Very good info, Paul.  Thank you.  I had been noticing that most of the time, my 2nd or 3rd shot in a continuous sequence was the sharpest, but had no idea why.

    Twin Lakes Ranch
    Central Texas
  •  11-23-2008, 1:23 PM 66890 in reply to 66832

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    PauWolf..I have a question: if you shoot at f8-f11, how are you getting a short depth of field, in your photos in your website? are you post editing to get that,? if so what are you doing and with what. by the way, your photos are amazing. thanks
    http://whatbird.com/forums/photos/early_summers_birds/
    IM: oldguyrich
  •  11-23-2008, 1:51 PM 66891 in reply to 66890

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    Birdseye:
    I didn't mean to give the impression that I always shoot at f/8 - f/11.  When conditions permit or demand, such as less light, or if I need as fast a shutter speed as I can get, or if I'm going for a very shallow depth of field or great background, I'll shoot at greater than f/8.  It's just that when I do, I know I'm outside the sweet spot, especially on the 100-400 lens. So everything has to be just right - especially dead on focus and lighting conditions. 

    There is a bit of a trick I use to keep down the noise if I've not been able to control it with a low enough ISO, and that is I blur the background in post processing.  I simply use the blur tool in Photoshop.  It eliminates the noise and helps get a decent background.  This will give the impression of a shallow depth of field.  Sometimes it is a lot of work, and it was very difficult to do until I got my Wacom tablet, espeically between feathers, legs, foreground materials, etc.  This is not the prefered method by any means, but most of my shots are with the 100-400, and it didn't give the most pleasing of bokehs.  And since I sell most of my shots as stock photos, no noise is absolutely critical or I would have my submissions rejected.  Most of those shots on my website took quite a while to post process, clean up, sharpen and get them right.  I'm pleased with most, wish I could do better on others.

    With my 500mm, I'm getting much better backgrounds.  And with the 1D Mark III, as opposed to the 20D and 10D, especially, I'm getting much lower noise at higher ISO settings.  One more thing, too, with the 500mm, I still believe my sweet spot is at f/8, but the difference between f/4 and f/8 on that lens is barely perceptable and usually easy to overcome with judicious sharpening (I use FocalBlade).

    My earlier post was meant as a general indication of my experiences.  Your equipment and technique, both in the field and post processing, may bend or even break the generalizations.  All the so-called rules in the book won't make up for knowing your equipment, technique and skills, and improving on each as much as possible. 

    Thanks for looking at my website, by the way.  I appreciate the comment.  I still have so much to learn and so far to go, but I guess that's why I can't give up this habit.

    Thanks, again.
    Paul

     


    Paul Wolf
    www.paulwolf.smugmug.com
  •  04-29-2009, 1:50 PM 91286 in reply to 66891

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    Paul,

     

    I'm reading your post with relish because I too have had soft results with a 400mm lens shooting wide open in fading light conditions. Birds are fleeting subjects. We must be quick about what we do or miss the shot. The answer is to be prepared. I'm wondering now if I shouldn't abandon my monopod and go for the weightier tripod but gain the added steadiness to be able to stop the lens down closer to f8. You've given me new hope as you are getting good results now and yet still express some exasperation at the process. Your words help give me the power to face another try at shooting, using a different view and setting up a different way. If only we could ask the birds to 'hold it' but then, even getting human subjects to hold still is next to impossible also.

     It's all in our hands.

     Ken

     

     

  •  05-11-2009, 8:36 PM 94187 in reply to 91286

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    I can't afford a DSLR much less those huge fancy lenses but my dependable ole Canon Powershot S2IS with it's 12X zoom and Image Stablizer takes some pretty darn clear shots and movies. One of these days I may get to shoot with the big guys though

    http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/58/558/8/77/14/2669877140074044252ntREEH_th.jpg

     

     


    Polgaratex
  •  05-11-2009, 9:18 PM 94196 in reply to 94187

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    polgaratex... you linked us to the thumbnail only.. so we can't really see the photo...
    http://whatbird.com/forums/photos/early_summers_birds/
    IM: oldguyrich
  •  06-09-2009, 1:06 PM 99907 in reply to 91286

    Re: DSLR camera Lenses How to get Sharper Images

    you can get some pretty light-weight tripods these days...i use a gitzo basalt...its carbon fiber and alot lighter than my induro aluminum legs.  both are great...but the gitzo legs are pricey...
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