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Astrobirder

Brown Ring-billed Gull

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I've been seeing an unusual Gull inland on LI in the past few days. I don't have a photo or even a good discription, since I didn't think much of it until now, but it was RBGU sized (known since it had been flying around with RBGU) and brown. I just want to know if there is any plumage things going on with this RBGU (which all should be whitish by now) or if I'm possibly seeing something rare

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1 hour ago, S.C. said:

It sounds like an immature RBGU.

Immatures at this time of year are mostly white and gray, this one was more brown like a Herring Gull (but much smaller)

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5 hours ago, Astrobirder said:

Immatures at this time of year are mostly white and gray, this one was more brown like a Herring Gull (but much smaller)

First-cycle Ring-bills are very variable. I was at the Salton Sea earlier this year and had a side-by-side comparison of regular first-cycle birds, and browner, full-juvenile-plumage juvenile birds. 

Article on the matter: http://www.sibleyguides.com/2009/12/variation-in-immature-ring-billed-gulls/

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Yes, there's variation, but a full juvenile in February is a much different proposition than one in mid-October. If Astrobirder could get a shot of this bird, it would probably be worthwhile. (Another possibility is a "runt" Herring Gull -- I've photographed one here in Illinois that wasn't much bigger than nearby Ring-billed.)

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33 minutes ago, psweet said:

Yes, there's variation, but a full juvenile in February is a much different proposition than one in mid-October. If Astrobirder could get a shot of this bird, it would probably be worthwhile. (Another possibility is a "runt" Herring Gull -- I've photographed one here in Illinois that wasn't much bigger than nearby Ring-billed.)

The runt idea could work too. I'm off from school for the next week so I should be able to get a photo of it.

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