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      Found a baby bird or a sick or injured bird?   07/11/17

      Here is a short article with advice for what to do if you find a baby bird or one that appears to be sick or injured. Bird rescue article Please feel free to post here if you have questions or need more help.

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cccougar    21

I photographed this pair on a bridge near Farmville, Va.  I assumed them to be American Crows, but seeing the red inside the one's mouth, I am wondering if they might be Common Ravens. Can anyone help?  Also, how can you tell the difference between crows and ravens?  Thank you.  CrowsHighBridge.jpg

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The Bird Nuts    1730

These are juveniles and I THINK I'd call them ravens as well.  Common Ravens have larger beaks and longer feather tufts on their beaks, but even so I have difficulty distinguishing them from crows when they're perched.

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cccougar    21

Thanks for the ID help Sean C. and Bird Nuts.  Bird Nuts- how can you tell these are juvies?  Thanks.  

Anyone else able to confirm these as Ravens?  

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Short-eared Owl    1418

They are certainly not adult ravens, the bills are far off. I'm not sure how a juvenile birds bill changes as it ages though. Are we positive that this is the same species? (i.e. did you see them being fed together or anything?)  The bird on the left looks a little different from the bird on the right.... To me (and I'm not positive) the right bird looks like a crow and the left bird I'm not sure about but looks more ravenish. I might change my mind on this though...:ph34r:  

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The Bird Nuts    1730

If one was a crow and the other was a raven then I would think the crow would look much smaller.

28 minutes ago, cccougar said:

Bird Nuts- how can you tell these are juvies?

At least one of them still has a fleshy gape flange (the pink you see at the base of the bill).

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Short-eared Owl    1418
1 minute ago, The Bird Nuts said:

If one was a crow and the other was a raven then I would think the crow would look much smaller.

 

30 minutes ago, Short-eared Owl said:

 I might change my mind on this though...:ph34r:  

:ph34r::ph34r:

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cccougar    21

Here are two more photos from same setting on the bridge, with the same two birds.  The bills do look more similar in the second photo.  Crow+Raven+flying.jpgCrow+Raven+2.jpg

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The Bird Nuts    1730

I still think they're ravens, but I'm still having trouble.....Any more shots of the tail shape in flight?  If it's wedge-shaped then that would confirm raven.

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cccougar    21

This shows the tail feathers more/better.  Ready to call Ravens Bird Nuts?  

Thank you Sean C!  492.JPG

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psweet    7795

Yes, both young ravens. Juvenile Ravens have a distinct brown tone to the body that you can see well here.

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cccougar    21

Thanks so much everyone for all of the input. Common Ravens- this is a lifer bird for me, at least in photographing them. 

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