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      Found a baby bird or a sick or injured bird?   07/11/17

      Here is a short article with advice for what to do if you find a baby bird or one that appears to be sick or injured. Bird rescue article Please feel free to post here if you have questions or need more help.

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douginBC    89

I think - but definitely do not know - that is probably a hybrid. I had the same question about one that looked like this one and that was the conclusion of the people I asked who had seen them often. The one I saw had the same face pattern with a slightly less bright bill.

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psweet    7700

I don't see why this isn't a Clark's. Frankly, if hybrids are as common as everyone seems to think, there's no way these should be considered separate species.

FWIW, both species are expected out there, at least on the Front Range.

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BigOly    2405

I'm in the Clark's camp.

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douginBC    89
6 hours ago, psweet said:

Frankly, if hybrids are as common as everyone seems to think, there's no way these should be considered separate species.

Indeed! There are a few supposed 'species' like that.

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psweet    7700

In most cases where we know there are extensive hybrid swarms (West Coast gulls, Baltimore/Bullock's Orioles, Spotted/Eastern Towhees, etc.) there's a well-defined hybrid zone where the species meet, and outside that you see little evidence of it. But Western and Clark's Grebes overlap, to some extent, across most of their range. Unless the hybrids are at a serious disadvantage, I don't see any way they could keep separate gene pools, as often as people claim hybrids.

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