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      Found a baby bird or a sick or injured bird?   07/11/17

      Here is a short article with advice for what to do if you find a baby bird or one that appears to be sick or injured. Bird rescue article Please feel free to post here if you have questions or need more help.
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ID help on two Pacific NW birds

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The gulls look like California Gulls. The second bird is a Song Sparrow.

That second bird looks nothing like a song sparrow...to me...I HATE BIRDING! Especially when it comes to sparrows, finches, flycatchers, terns and every other bird that is not as easy as a adult male painted bunting, elegant trogan, or varied bunting to idenify!

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Song Sparrows are our most geographically variable species. (At least, there's more described subspecies than any other.) Song Sparrows in the Pacific Northwest look nothing like the ones in SE Arizona, and neither one resembles an eastern one.

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That second bird looks nothing like a song sparrow...to me...I HATE BIRDING! Especially when it comes to sparrows, finches, flycatchers, terns and every other bird that is not as easy as a adult male painted bunting, elegant trogan, or varied bunting to idenify!

It can be difficult and frustrating, but that's half the fun! 

 

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Is there a photo of the sparrow showing the chest?  Since I bird the east coast, it's probably just the east west differences.  The song sparrow id is probably correct; though I'm getting a slight fox sparrow vibe.  I would be interested to see if the spots continue onto the chest (like fox), or turn into streaks (like song).   To me, the tail seems a little short, and the malar stripe doesn't seem much darker than the rest of the bird.  I  still have a lot to learn about regional differences.  

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Song and Fox are both much darker overall in the Northwest. The very low-contrast face pattern made me think about Fox as well, but I think the bill shape and the streaking on the back make this a Song. 

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