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Sean C.

Melierax's Hawk

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I'm posting this for @Melierax, who doesn't have her computer with her and is currently traveling.

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I'll let her know via Discord what you guys think ;)

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I'm probably seeing this wrong, but it looks like a Eurasian Kestrel.

Ikr? I'll go ahead and put it on eBird in case anyone wants to give it a look.

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Ikr? I'll go ahead and put it on eBird in case anyone wants to give it a look.

I would enter it as kestrel species - such an extreme rarity cannot be called from those two shots. 

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There's absolutely no way you could convince someone that this is a Eurasian Kestrel, sorry. Even if you accept everything you see in the photo at face value, there isn't enough here, and with a photo like this, various lighting and color issues are likely to make what you're seeing unreliable.

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I would enter it as kestrel species - such an extreme rarity cannot be called from those two shots. 

 

 

There's absolutely no way you could convince someone that this is a Eurasian Kestrel, sorry. Even if you accept everything you see in the photo at face value, there isn't enough here, and with a photo like this, various lighting and color issues are likely to make what you're seeing unreliable.

Thanks guys! The reason I've put it as Eurasian kestrel for now is so that people can see it in the rare bird alert. I've had one person contact me to try and see it... We'll see if he has success. If no one sees another possible Eurasian in the next week or so I'll change it to kestrel sp. 

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Yea, I wouldn't put this down to a species level from this. Definitely a kestrel, but I'd lean American. If this does turn out to be a Eurasian, just make sure to see if any people in the area are missing a falconry bird, as that's happened quite a number of times. (I can remember a Gyrfalcon down here)

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Yea, I wouldn't put this down to a species level from this. Definitely a kestrel, but I'd lean American. If this does turn out to be a Eurasian, just make sure to see if any people in the area are missing a falconry bird, as that's happened quite a number of times. (I can remember a Gyrfalcon down here)

Oh that makes sense. 

I put up the original photos on the checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S39328015

EDIT: Now that I can really look at them, I see some red on the tail in the second photo which would definitely point to American. It's still just really odd to me how gray and unmarked that head is even with this bad of quality. 

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Even if it weren't American, you could never tell between Eurasian and Lesser from those photos.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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When I saw the title "Melierax's Hawk," I was thinking I missed a new species split. ;)

Don't worry. You aren't the only one. :lol: I hope someone identifies that soon.

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