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Photos taken a few days ago near Tucson, Arizona. I think this is a Canyon Towhee but this species isn't commonly recorded on eBird at the location, and I would need to add it with an explanation. The photo of course would be a big help if it is in fact a Canyon Towhee. There are a few different Sparrow species that seem like they could fit for the bird in this photo, none of which I am very familiar with. Thanks for the help!

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If you send both of these shots in, you'll seriously confuse the reviewer! The first one is indeed a Canyon Towhee. The second one looks like a Chipping Sparrow, although I'm having trouble seeing the lores to nail it down -- that shadow's in just the wrong spot.

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Thanks psweet! I have more photos of the sparrow, but all in that harsh light. In one it's head is turned facing back. Perhaps that would help in identifying it. I'd post it in this thread but its only allowing me to add a tiny photo here, which probably wouldn't help. It seems like that is the general size restriction. I don't know how I was able to attach the larger images to begin with. I don't have a Flickr account at this point and that seems to be the best way to post photo here. I'll look into it. Thanks again!

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With the distinct wing bar and the face pattern, I still think Chipping is the best bet -- I'm having trouble trying to turn it into a Clay-colored, and the wingbar is wrong for Brewer's or Rufous-winged.

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1 hour ago, psweet said:

With the distinct wing bar and the face pattern, I still think Chipping is the best bet -- I'm having trouble trying to turn it into a Clay-colored, and the wingbar is wrong for Brewer's or Rufous-winged.

Could it be a young chipping?

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Thanks psweet. Those are the 3 other possibilities that I was thinking about and they all look very similar to me. I've seen Chipping Sparrows before, but I was still unsure with this one.

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Yeah I'd agree with nonbreeding adult/immature chipping. Just doesn't fit clay-coloured for me, not bold enough. Lots of chipping passing through right now here!

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