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Robert Nelson

Immature Red-tailed Hawk?

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Definitely a Red-tail, but I don't see anything specific to say a youngster. What I can see of the tail doesn't show banding, and the eye appears dark. Both would be markers of adults, but I'm not sure we're seeing them well enough to say.

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No red on the tail is significant. And when I looked at your photo on Flickr I THINK I can see a relatively light colored eye which would also support your ID. 

The confusing feature on this bird is the underside of its tail. As psweet noted, no apparent banding indicates an adult and, adding more confusion (for me at least), it appears very dark while on immatures it is normally light with darker bands.

Did you happen to get any other photos, particularly of it flying. That could help. 

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The underside of a Red-tail's tail generally doesn't show red, unless it's backlit. Banding on the tail, here in the east, would be a sign of a youngster -- adults don't have bands. (Mostly -- most western adults and some of the northern birds do have bands as adults.)

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When I took the shot, I showed it to an instructor at the Conservation Center, and she suggested that it was an immature Red-Tailed Hawk.  I think she and I were looking at the photo and seeing the white as part of the tail, when it is really the underside of a wing. You're right. There is not enough tail showing. My main question should have been if it was, in fact, a Red-Tailed Hawk  Thank you all for your responses. I apologize for my confusion.

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Adult Red-tailed Hawk -- most eastern adults don't show tail banding, except for a subterminal; juvs have banded tails; additionally, the tails of Red-taileds from below with light shining through them are very pale; eastern juvs usually have a much more-distinct supercilium, obviously yellow eyes, and browner upperparts plumage.

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