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      Found a baby bird or a sick or injured bird?   07/11/17

      Here is a short article with advice for what to do if you find a baby bird or one that appears to be sick or injured. Bird rescue article Please feel free to post here if you have questions or need more help.

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Going through some old photos, I have two poor shots of a hawk which flew overhead two years ago. I posted in my local bird society page, and they seemed to think it is a juvenile Broad-winged Hawk. Something bugs me though, and I want to ask about it. The tail bands don't seem right for an adult BW nor for a juvenile. They are more or less equal, and narrow, unlike the wide bands of the adult BW, and unlike the faint bands and wide bottom band of the juve. Second point, the shape of the wing tips, which are very blunt. In the photo where the bird is foreshortened, you can't tell so much, but in the other one you see a smooth rounded wing-tip (BW having four tips, giving a more pointed look from what I have studied up on...).  No patagial bars, I rule out the Red-tailed Hawk, and the tail seemed proportionately too long...viewed through binos, as well as in the photo, and the bars on the tail not like a juve RT either. Anyway, that's all my take on it, correct anything I've said if I'm wrong, please! I'm here to learn. 

I am including the original shots and lighting-adjusted shots. The time was 10:45 on a September morning. I am in Nova Scotia, Canada. These were the best I could do with my camera (Canon Powershot).

hawk in flight tail bands copy.jpg

hawk in flight.jpg

hawk outline.jpg

unknown hawk.jpg

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I also want to add you can see the angle of the sun is towards the bird, not above it, the light was coming at it side-on, as September here the sun is already not as high at that time of day as it would be in the summer.

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I'm thinking Broad-winged is the best bet as well. Precise details of shape and plumage are iffy when a shots this blurred. Pixels start bleeding into each other, and you can end up with some very funny effects, especially when you try and sharpen the shot. The tail looks too short and the wings too long for an Accip, the secondaries don't seem to bulge like a Red-tail, a Rough-leg's carpal patches should still show up, and a Red-shouldered shouldn't give the appearance of pale outer primaries, something young Broad-wings do sometimes show.

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