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Gulls seem to be a popular topic around here lately. I know I have at least 1 lifer here. All these were from yesterday, 1/12, at an inland lake in Southeast Michigan. Thanks in advance for any help. I have more pictures of almost all of them if you want to see other views.

Editing out all the Herring Gull photos 1-3, 5-9 that @psweet ID'd.

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  1. Herring Gull
  2. Herring Gulls, I think. The front bird's a bit pale in the primaries, but the rest of it doesn't seem right for anything else.
  3. Herring Gull, despite the bill.
  4. Glaucous on the left, for sure. The right.... that looks like a 1st-cycle Glaucous-winged to me. Very nice find! You'll want to let people know about it if it isn't already out there.

5-8 all appear to be young Herring Gulls.

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Thank you @psweet! The young ones really stump me. Seems like young Herring Gulls can have a lot of brownish in them but also get pretty gray.

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On #4 could they both be Iceland Gulls? 2nd photo I posted they are about the same size as Herring Gull. Wouldn't Glaucous be considerably larger?

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For #4, the bird on the left is a no-doubt Glaucous Gull. The flat head, beady eye, and sharply bicolored bill are a diagnostic combination. The other bird might be a particularly large Iceland, but the overall look seems rather monotone for that, and the long, flat forehead seems to fit GW better to me. On the other hand, that last shot looks a bit better for Iceland. You might try this one on the Facebook gull ID page?

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Here are some more photos of the subject gull, what some people say is a large Iceland (Kumlien's) and a couple independent people guessed Herring X Glaucous-winged. Any more thoughts after these photos?

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Looking at that bill, I'm now thinking Glaucous-winged is out. But it still doesn't look right for an Iceland to me - the head structure isn't right. I could definitely see it as some sort of hybrid.

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