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GreatHorn

Stop Bird Banding?

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Ya, I really don't know about all that.  But we (not me, the scientists) are not banding birds for fun, these banded birds become scientific instruments to gauge the population as a whole and how human activity might be disrupting their lives.  You can draw a bunch of conclusions from things that may be nothing more than chance.  Do banded birds die more often or do we just notice when the do?  Of course a bird is going to preen and move the bands around, they know how to keep clean.  And how about the Moon Bird, not only has his multiple tags not hurt it, it has made him an ambassador for his species drawing attention to migrating shorebirds, horseshoe crab spawning, and how humans are messing things up.  If a few birds have to be annoyed by a tag to keep the species as a whole healthy, thats something I can live with.  If someone convinces me birds are trying to gnaw their legs off because they are in pain, that's a different story.

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I'm failing to see the swelling in the "knee". Especially since they aren't showing the knee. I also find it a little hard to believe that a single dipper will produce 15,000 birds in 5 years. Just because they can have 7 young a year, there's a reason they have so many - because most of them won't reach maturity, due to perfectly natural reasons.

 

There is also a page that's devoted to banning horse-drawn carriage rides in cities. The reasons are absolutely ridiculous, and the comments are completely absurd.

 

If people are concerned for the welfare of animals, that's great. But you really have to keep your reasons logical and factual, you can't just make stuff up.

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I don't know much about bird banding (or tagging), but I do know that it would be a lot harder to keep track of critically endangered species, like Whooping Cranes and California Condors, without the use of bands and tags. Someone needs to check their facts more.

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One comment on there I agree with is "wild animals aren't toys." At least they understand how to treat an animal, but their ignorance and exaggeration on banding is unfortunate.

I'm failing to see the swelling in the "knee". Especially since they aren't showing the knee. I also find it a little hard to believe that a single dipper will produce 15,000 birds in 5 years. Just because they can have 7 young a year, there's a reason they have so many - because most of them won't reach maturity, due to perfectly natural reasons.

They know how to raise 7 to the 5th power... bow to their logic!

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One comment on there I agree with is "wild animals aren't toys." At least they understand how to treat an animal, but their ignorance and exaggeration on banding is unfortunate.

They know how to raise 7 to the 5th power... bow to their logic!

Right. Did they account for natural die-off, or didn't they bother?

 

There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with criticizing bad practices--and those NEED to change/stop when found. But I cannot, for the life of me, find proof anywhere in there that birds ARE being harmed.

 

Is it just me? 

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Just found this ancient thread. 

On June 10, 2013 at 4:44 PM, birdbrain22 said:

Agree that those folks are crazy and thier belief is pure rubbish.

:lol:

That about covers it! 

(All in favor of good treatment of birds, of course, but this is loony to the point of being very funny if it wasn't real.) 

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